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this hope radio for the masses at Lima

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Peru July 8 my dream forever me

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the Army Air Forces has announced that

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applying there has been found and is now

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in the possession of the on a rig change

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the game changer I occasionally think

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how quickly our differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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threat from outside this way

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fade to black with your host Jimmy

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church on the GameChanger radio network

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and a GRA

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we need your help to get to the year

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black with Jimmy judge on the

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game-changing network

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good evening fade to black

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the spoke radio for God

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Matt says it is how you do it

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how you doing it is Tuesday May 12 2020

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133 days into the new year

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only 233 days left

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we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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downtown Burbank California and I would

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world

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all across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west to north and south

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far and near this is fade to black for

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kjc are the game changer Network @kg are

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I'm your Sydney Church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing

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you know I just love going through these

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gifts you know that just flood in at the

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top of the show you guys are the best

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man I'm just Harding all of them just

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heart heart heart heart heart man it was

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that a did I just see the I did maybe

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you guys are good you guys are good

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follow me on Twitter I teach radio and

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trust me you're gonna want to go check

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out all the gifts that everybody posts

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at the front of the show some of these

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are really good and is that Thin Lizzy

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oh man well done Brian

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well done who's this hold on a minute

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ruby slippers who posted ruby slippers

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nobody knows about ruby slippers and

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they're great that was a good band that

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was Scott yeah he used to hang out with

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ruby slippers yeah yeah okay anyway I

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can go completely sideways on everything

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that was just posted a great show

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tonight great show last night more on

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that in just a minute but great show

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tonight

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Reuben Langdon is here and his new

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series that we talked about last year

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while he was shooting it conversations

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were dead and we're gonna be talking

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about that extra-dimensional so we're

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gonna be talking about that and so much

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talented not only actor and stuntman and

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stunt coordinator and editor and

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director and filmmaker you know all of

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those things but he's also a heck of a

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researcher and really understands the

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UFO subject and other things about our

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is he's just great and a wealth of

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knowledge so tonight Reuben Langdon is

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here you just kick back it's going to be

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swauk straight up to him and go dude

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what's up he's he's really cool and and

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jump in right here Rubin Langdon is with

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is here and this is good sation tomorrow

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night when you think about the week that

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that is and was he run fade to black you

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Rubin LinkedIn tomorrow night Jim

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this conversation I'm gonna throw him

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under the bus a little bit he shot me a

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text earlier today and he said Jimmy I

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expect you to ask me anything don't hold

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back on everything that I love I wrote

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acid man Jim it's just you and I having

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the conversation man it's gonna be great

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it's just us so that's tomorrow night

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and you're not gonna want to miss that

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Thursday night is another Fator night

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and it's open lines all night long and

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after the last a couple of months that

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days holy crap what a great night it is

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going to be on Thursday open lines all

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night long you can follow me right now

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on Twitter at J Church

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radio okay start right there at J church

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radio and not only follow me on Twitter

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which is great but say something comment

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engage engage do it you know I'll

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respond I will I mean if it's

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speaking of smart last night I don't

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even know the title of it Rita and I

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based on kind of a loosely based on Flo

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& Eddie you know from the turtles from

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the period of like 1970 to 1972 and it

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was absolutely incredible what at three

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just an incredible documentary and it

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just made me feel smart

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love me some Zappa love me some Zappa

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it was the documentary is about him

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going through band members and how he

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selected them and they interviewed

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everybody that was in the bed man wow

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what a great documentary and like I said

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that's where I get all my best material

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you know I steal it I steal it from

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Redfern I steal her from Dolan steal it

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from Langdon steal it from his app I do

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I really really do if you ever get a

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chance to go and listen to Zappa's one

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bootie live in New York at the Roxy and

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more I think that's what that was called

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go and listen to overnight sensations

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Tinseltown rebellion you go and listen

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to any of those albums and you're

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listen and if you're a fan already you

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know but you're gonna go listen go wow I

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thought Church I thought that was a

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church original stuff that is printed on

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the back of the fade to black t-shirts

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right all the jimmy-isms they're all

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stolen from Frank but I got to admit

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it's cool right if I admit it

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right it's all good right okay I feel

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better I feel cleansed all right you can

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email throughout the show Jimmy at Jimmy

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Oh calm we have to chat rooms open one

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right here on Spreaker got it one @k GRA

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the planet got it we've got everything

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that's going on over at YouTube hello

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everybody I'm YouTube Facebook everybody

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that's watching right now and listening

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on Facebook hello

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comments today about the show last night

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what an incredible show more on that in

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just a minute the house and going

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through Twitter very cool to see all of

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this interaction communication going and

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I can't be everywhere at all times it's

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impossible rights impossible I got a

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show to do but thank you to everybody

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that is hanging out and I promise you

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that one will do a night with YouTube

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and I'll have YouTube up we should start

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that Rita maybe we should start that

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Thursday let's start that Thursday like

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we'll do a YouTube night well I'll have

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YouTube up instead of Twitter and my

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email and then the next night we'll do

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Facebook or maybe we'll do Facebook

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first and then YouTube or maybe Twitter

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and and the Twitter feed and what is

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going on there with everybody maybe just

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the chat rooms right and we'll just do

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that maybe we should do it that way

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every night of the week just to shift

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right for nights boom boom boom boom

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boom and go into rotation right Tuesday

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Tuesday tube night or Tuesday Twitter

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all right all right let's get this joke

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I got a lot to do tonight I want you to

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get your immune system boosted we all

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know what's going on right now the world

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great read it feels great

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Rita is so energized that I've got text

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coming in from her right now on three

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because she feels great my family feels

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all right men I'm diggin all of the the

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Frank Zappa stuff you guys get Zappa

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don't you you know Rita said to me last

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night she goes when I was growing up you

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know I might have heard Zappa three

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times and we you know over in Europe it

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was just a different thing and you know

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but over here and I said you know what

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Rita he was like that everywhere that

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was you had to because there was no zap

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zap on the radio to Like Valley Girl and

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that doesn't even count but and nothing

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cents right well anyway no the only way

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you got Zappa is if somebody slip T the

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album right a boot

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like a set and you were able to check it

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out but there was there was no Zappa on

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TV there was no Zappa on the radio he

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was he was not out there that was an

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underground thing everything that he did

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was because he was great not because the

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the industry supported him no that is

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not the case not the case at all but

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anyway Frank Zappa I'm glad you guys are

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right there with me let's get to the

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breaking news our simulcast of the house

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last night with the dark zone made the

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Connecticut Post today in an article by

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Andrew DeRosa it's very cool seriously

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you need to check it out

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fade to black got a mention and it's a

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pretty cool article now we've got the

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links up for the article throughout

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social media for you to go and read it

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really quick Rita and others that are

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listening if you could repost it right

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now and Twitter retweet it so I can get

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it up there for everybody to see during

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the show but it's a great article and

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thank you to not only the Hinds ins but

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everybody over at the dark zone last

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night was very special more on that in

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just a minute and today I saw this

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headline on Fox News Thank You Renee by

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the way that said Martian rock samples

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could bring extraterrestrial viruses to

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earth that's the headline so then you go

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and click it seems that Foreman NASA

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Ames director Scott Hubbard said he is

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concerned that the future rock samples

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brought back from Mars will need to be

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checked and quarantined as will the

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astronauts who returned from future

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visits quote this is quoting Hubbard

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quote I have heard from some colleagues

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in the human spaceflight area that they

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can see how in the current environment

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the general public could become more

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concern about bringing back some alien

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micro

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iris or contamination end quote now

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Hubbard who now teaches Aeronautics and

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Astronautics at Stanford University

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added that the rock samples brought back

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by the perseverance rover will have to

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be quarantined and treated as though

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they are the Ebola virus still until

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proven safe now

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they will also he continued they will

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also need to be baked at high

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temperature prior to being safely

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examined now NASA will launch

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perseverance the unmanned rover this

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July 17th along with the first

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helicopter drone all of this to search

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for extraterrestrial life on the Red

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Planet

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but that helicopter won't search for

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anything it doesn't even have a camera

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moving on a sixth a 19.6 listen to me

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you heard me

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a 19-point six ton chinese rocket

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slammed into our planet yesterday and

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nobody knew about it that's all no more

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news no I miss the nineteen point six

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tons cheney's rocket the long march 5b

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became the heaviest orbiting thing to

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fall uncontrolled to earth in nearly

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three decades all of this according to

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Jonathan McDowell the only person that

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knew about it

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a Harvard astrophysicist an orbital

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object tracker the last time a heavier

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object had an uncontrolled entry was

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back in 1991 when the 43-ton Salyut 7

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Soviet space station re-entered the

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atmosphere over Argentina now although

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it was tracked over New York City's

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Central Park I'm not making this up

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there is no mention in any press release

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anywhere today

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about what

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finally crashed it's not out there

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seriously so if you know if you know

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anything if you've heard anything please

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contact me immediately all of the press

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releases on every website from every

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mass media outlet everyone is a

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cut-and-paste job they all say the exact

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same thing I don't know where it came

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down tracked over tracked over Central

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Park tracked over Colorado Springs

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tracked over Hollywood Florida and I

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don't even know how that happens right

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Hollywood Florida and which is directly

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South Central Park how it made that turn

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that I don't know but nonetheless and

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then eventually over Colorado Springs

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where did it come down nobody knows so

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if you find out please please let me

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know cosmic debris very well played Marc

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well done all right where am I at the

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star works UFOs an artificial

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intelligence conference in Laughlin

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Nevada is going down November 5th

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through the 8th and I want you to go to

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Starworks usa.com for tickets and info

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I'm gonna be there Rita's gonna be there

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fade to black crew grant Cameron Paul hi

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Nick James Fox Alan's div element sid

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goldberg and another great speak dozen

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great speakers so go and check it out

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now Starworks us a.com today

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hold on for a second today it was

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announced here in Los Angeles that the

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citywide countywide

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lockdown here in Los Angeles is probably

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going to be extended through July very

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interesting ok so that went out today we

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just moved the dates of for disclosure

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fest to August 8th we have two other

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dates available to us one in September

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one in October today to have this

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extension go out there another three

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months surprised all of us but

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nonetheless it is what it is

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and the state of California in the city

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of Los Angeles are calling the shots

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here so to stay updated I want you to

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visit disclosure fest dot org

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as the news breaks and we have

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information I'll bring it to you here

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and it will also be launched over a

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disclosure fest org let's give the show

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crack and happy birthday to rami malek

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today 39 years old star Bohemian

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Rhapsody and mr. robot Steve Winwood

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today is 72 arkad the divert traffic

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Spencer Davis Jimi Hendrix do you know

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he played keyboards on voodoo child I

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bet you didn't know that that was Steve

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Winwood drummer Eric singer today is 62

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kiss Black Sabbath Alice Cooper Lita

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Ford Badlands Brian May gary moore billy

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squier today is 70 blows my mind don't

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say no from 1981 and emotions emotion in

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1982 two of the biggest rock albums of

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the decade and brought arena rock front

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and center with hits like the stroke

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lonely is the night my kind of lover in

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the dark rocked me tonight everybody

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wants you and emotions emotion

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absolutely incredible run a hits for two

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years with billy squier don't say no

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this is for memory don't quote me on

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don't say no but i believe that don't

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say no was on the Billboard charts for

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like two years and it's right incredible

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run our dead guy's birthday today is

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George Carlin 1937 a 2008 died at the

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age of 71 considered by many to be the

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greatest stand-up comedian of all time

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he put out 14 stand-up comedy specials

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for HBO in his career and was the first

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host of Saturday Night Live back in 1975

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he was awarded the Mark Twain prize for

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American humor in 2008 right after he

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passed away he was the winner of five

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Grammy Awards and his

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from this seven dirty words comedy

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routine was first performed in 1972 and

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was central to the 1978 US Supreme Court

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case FCC vs. Pacifica foundation and

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there you go the thing is what's he the

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greatest comedian of all time maybe

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probably but he was definitely the

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greatest stand-up truth teller on this

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day in history 1963 Bob Dylan walks out

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on the Ed Sullivan Show

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it was the appearance that never

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happened on May 12 1963 Dylan walked off

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the set of the country's highest rated

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variety show after network censors

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rejected the song he planned on

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performing here's your fader fact are

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you ready a castrato a castrato

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castrato is a male singer castrated in

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boyhood to retain a soprano or Alto

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voice the practice of castration was

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banned in 1903 the last official

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castrato

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Alessandro more set more chessy write

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retired from the Sistine Chapel in 1913

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though some historians suspect that

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Domenico Mancini who sang in the papal

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choir until 1959 was a secret castrato

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and that is your fader fact did you just

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go there you go

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alright tonight very special guest

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Reuben Langdon and it's like this I'm

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going to get all of this in in five

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minutes all right so I'm gonna drink

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this for a moon coffee I'm gonna I'm

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gonna do this fast

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if you tuned in last night you were

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taking part in a pretty historic show

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for a lot of reasons first we did a

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simulcast with the darks

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in which I got to host their livestream

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called the house now

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although simulcasts have happened many

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times with different types of events

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it's actually quite rare when two or

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more different networks can come

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together and agree to it but the dark

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zone was with us from the very beginning

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and it shows everyone how cool our

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community really is second the

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opportunity for the fader nots to meet

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the Hynes ins the current owners of the

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conjuring house and even take a virtual

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tour through the home whether it was

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with the lines of the live stream or on

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fade to black it was a very unique and

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singular experience and one that I

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really enjoyed doing I learned so much

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last night from from the hinds ins and

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third although it would have been cool

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to have the football and their broom

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fall over and if you listened and

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watched last night you know what I'm

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talking about you know live on the

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stream and I'm fade to black something

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else happened last night when the dad

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Corey revealed to us that he had found a

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box in the basement that had a drawing

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in it of a person who had a broken neck

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with their tongue sticking out so this

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was right before the commercial break

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but when we returned I went back to

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Corey and and asked about the box and

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the drawing and I had asked him if he

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could take us down to the basement so we

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could check it out now as we made our

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way down to the basement I had no idea

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how significant this box would turn out

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to be the drawing wasn't on a piece of

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paper no which is what I was expecting

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but a drawing on the box itself inside

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now of course I wish everyone listening

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I fade to black could have seen what I

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had seen on the screen but for those

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watching on the livestream they know why

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I had the reaction to the sketch like I

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did now I'm gonna reach out to the dark

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zone in the hinds ins to see if we can

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get screenshots of that

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very moment because in a small way it

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was history being made

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should I have grabbed my phone and

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snapped a picture of my monitor at that

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moment sure maybe but just like anything

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else that happened so fast I was caught

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up in what was going down

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and yes it was pretty amazing to see now

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I think that we can expect a lot more in

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the future about this drawing inside the

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box because it is very important we have

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to ask who drew it

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when was it drawn why was it drawn the

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box itself looked quite old was it there

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before the parents live there does

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Andrea Perrin know anything about it

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right there were also more drawings by

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the way and I looked at them briefly

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when the camera was moving around in in

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the inside but my attention was foken on

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the broken neck lady now I say lady

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because the figure looked like it was

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wearing a dress but I'll leave this to

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others to analyze but its neck was

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definitely broken the person was dead

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and the tongue was hanging out it was a

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most certainly drawn by a child and we

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have to ask ourselves what did this

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child witness what was going on in that

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house was it a dream was it real and one

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last note the Box appeared to be a large

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toy box it was about four feet long like

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two feet high foot and a half tall foot

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and a half deep two feet deep it was

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painted white right it was covered in

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dirt on the outside and its top and

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bottom were missing and I don't know if

562
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there was a lid on a hinge that wasn't

563
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there I don't know maybe he didn't have

564
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a hinge lid you know whatever but inside

565
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:28,460
it was pretty clean and the drawings

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themselves are very clear and legible

567
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the broken neck figure in the middle of

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the other images that were surrounding

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it were very interesting and I gotta say

570
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it was pretty shocking now today when I

571
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read the article by Andrew DeRosa of the

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Connecticut Post I was happy to see that

573
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I wasn't the only one who was witnessing

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something pretty extraordinary it was

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pretty amazing and quoting

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and drew directly from his article today

577
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he said the highlight of the almost to

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our interview came when the family told

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church about a box that they had found

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in the basement which contained a

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child's drawing of a hanging woman with

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a bent neck and her tongue hanging out

583
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when the family showed the drawing to

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the camera chills went down my spine

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again as I stared into the eyes of what

586
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is perhaps a child's drawing of a

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demonic entity end quote

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now yeah I think we can all agree with

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Andrew everyone had chills going down

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their spines pretty much all the way to

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the floor this is why live radio and

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today's version live streaming is so

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cool you never know what may happen and

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most of the time nothing does

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but it's the anticipation that makes

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things so compelling and when it does

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right when it goes down like last night

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it's bleep in history if that drawing is

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any indication about what is happening

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at the house the hinds ins have one heck

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of a paranormal investigation in front

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of them for years to come just ask

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Andrea Perrin this is fade to black I am

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your host Jimmy Church tonight our guest

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Reuben Langdon and it's going to be one

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there I am your host Jimmy church this

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Arby's Jimmy Church tonight Reuben

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Rendlesham and all of the latest news

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that is going around Thursday night's

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another Fator night's open lines all

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night long tonight it's all about Reuben

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00:37:08,450 --> 00:37:05,880
Langdon he joins us is to discuss his

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00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:08,460
new series and interviews with that each

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00:37:14,420 --> 00:37:11,130
episode focuses on one particular race

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or collective of beings and/or actual

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beings who channels through a particular

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person or persons now at a young age

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Reuben began his career in Japan as a

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series regular acting in the Japanese

696
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:29,670
superhero TV series B fighter Kabuto he

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00:37:34,430 --> 00:37:31,710
later relocated to Hong Kong to work

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00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:34,440
alongside the most recognizable names in

699
00:37:39,170 --> 00:37:37,110
action including Jackie Chan and Salma

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00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:39,180
Hong eventually he made his way to

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Hollywood and work to regularly as an

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00:37:45,110 --> 00:37:43,590
actor and stuntman on the international

703
00:37:46,850 --> 00:37:45,120
hit show the Power Rangers

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00:37:49,010 --> 00:37:46,860
he also made appearances in several

705
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:49,020
blockbuster films including Charlie's

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00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:52,050
Angels spider-man 2 ant-man and Pirates

707
00:37:56,420 --> 00:37:54,570
of the Caribbean at World's End and he

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00:38:00,140 --> 00:37:56,430
has been the stunt coordinator and/or

709
00:38:02,750 --> 00:38:00,150
stuntman in the office Dexter CSI Miami

710
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:02,760
and many other film TV and video game

711
00:38:10,220 --> 00:38:06,930
projects in April in May of 2013

712
00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:10,230
Ruben co-produced the citizens hearing

713
00:38:13,790 --> 00:38:11,310
on disclosure

714
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:13,800
it included 40 witnesses from 10

715
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:16,110
different countries testifying in front

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00:38:21,020 --> 00:38:18,690
of six former members of the United

717
00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:21,030
States Congress on the fact that the

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00:38:26,180 --> 00:38:23,630
world is being engaged by

719
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extraterrestrials his website links are

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right there over at Jimmy Church

721
00:38:30,350 --> 00:38:29,430
radio.com and I would like to welcome

722
00:38:33,260 --> 00:38:30,360
back to the show

723
00:38:36,830 --> 00:38:33,270
Ruben Langdon Ruben good evening man how

724
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:36,840
are you good evening Jimmy how's it

725
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:38,310
going hey you know what's going good

726
00:38:45,359 --> 00:38:42,810
check this out Ruben not to reveal

727
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:45,369
exactly what we talked about today maybe

728
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:47,410
I will maybe I'll do it because it was

729
00:38:52,770 --> 00:38:50,079
actually pretty funny but this tweet it

730
00:38:57,950 --> 00:38:52,780
just came up in Twitter can I read it

731
00:39:01,200 --> 00:38:57,960
you ready sure it's a it's it says Jimmy

732
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:01,210
don't do my boy wrong like that

733
00:39:14,099 --> 00:39:04,290
Reuben Langdon also did Devil May Cry

734
00:39:19,859 --> 00:39:14,109
Dante can I tell everybody what I said

735
00:39:21,810 --> 00:39:19,869
to you today is that cool this is this

736
00:39:22,290 --> 00:39:21,820
is a conversation between Reuben and

737
00:39:26,130 --> 00:39:22,300
Jimmy

738
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:26,140
going on I said hey Reuben just tell me

739
00:39:32,130 --> 00:39:29,170
right now I want the truth do you ever

740
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:32,140
run around the house wearing the Dante

741
00:39:49,859 --> 00:39:45,490
wig from Devil May Cry so funny and and

742
00:39:51,569 --> 00:39:49,869
and to see this tweet pop up the we're

743
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:51,579
gonna get to out we have so much to

744
00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:55,510
discuss tonight Reuben and I don't know

745
00:40:00,000 --> 00:39:57,250
what that is is that you were me that

746
00:40:02,069 --> 00:40:00,010
must have been you I don't know I just

747
00:40:03,809 --> 00:40:02,079
lost you for a second there okay that

748
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:03,819
was you then okay that wasn't me that

749
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:05,890
was bizarre okay

750
00:40:09,839 --> 00:40:07,810
we've got a lot to talk about tonight

751
00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:09,849
and there's a lot of things going on in

752
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:13,390
the news series right now is is a huge

753
00:40:19,260 --> 00:40:15,569
hit for you and congratulations

754
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:19,270
conversations with a but it's actually

755
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:21,250
called interviews with it bi interviews

756
00:40:25,950 --> 00:40:22,690
with that Congress now how many times

757
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:25,960
have I say I'm having conversations your

758
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:31,450
interviews with that is that your your

759
00:40:39,690 --> 00:40:35,730
career okay your career you're working

760
00:40:41,849 --> 00:40:39,700
one click on your IMDB page which

761
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:41,859
everybody in Hollywood does to see who's

762
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:44,170
working and who's not right you're

763
00:40:51,540 --> 00:40:47,710
working right you are a busy guy you've

764
00:40:53,940 --> 00:40:51,550
got started going yeah yeah you've got

765
00:40:56,130 --> 00:40:53,950
things going on not only in the video

766
00:41:00,750 --> 00:40:56,140
game world but in the TV world

767
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:00,760
you are working here in Hollywood you

768
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:03,520
don't have to do what you're doing right

769
00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:06,400
for this community the the your new TV

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series and the research and the

771
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:11,560
contributions that you make to all of us

772
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:14,110
here do you don't have to do it why do

773
00:41:20,070 --> 00:41:18,130
you do it Ruben well actually it's

774
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:20,080
because I can because of the career

775
00:41:25,050 --> 00:41:22,530
because I am a working man in Hollywood

776
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:25,060
which means you're only really working a

777
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:27,280
few days a month but still that's enough

778
00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:32,650
to allocate time so I can do this other

779
00:41:41,130 --> 00:41:36,760
work so I figured well I've been blessed

780
00:41:43,740 --> 00:41:41,140
with this awesome career to you know

781
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:43,750
only have to work a few a few days a

782
00:41:49,070 --> 00:41:48,010
month to pay the bills and oh I lost you

783
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:49,080
again

784
00:41:57,180 --> 00:41:54,640
okay we've lost Ruben okay this is

785
00:42:00,930 --> 00:41:57,190
interest yeah okay

786
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:00,940
yeah you're dropping on our end okay so

787
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:02,770
hopefully that's not going to happen

788
00:42:13,470 --> 00:42:11,130
again here's its poor connection and I

789
00:42:17,370 --> 00:42:13,480
want to pick up where you left off you

790
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:17,380
said it's because you're working a few

791
00:42:23,060 --> 00:42:19,810
days a month in Hollywood it gives you

792
00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:23,070
the time to and I'll let you continue

793
00:42:30,540 --> 00:42:26,680
okay yeah thanks for filling me in on on

794
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:30,550
that so yeah I think in the way it's

795
00:42:36,660 --> 00:42:33,520
it's kind of what science in my duty but

796
00:42:38,940 --> 00:42:36,670
I have this this awesome career as a

797
00:42:41,940 --> 00:42:38,950
stuntman as an actor and stunt

798
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:41,950
coordinator and I can really only have

799
00:42:47,970 --> 00:42:44,890
to work a few days a month to pay the

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00:42:50,220 --> 00:42:47,980
bills and I live modestly so I have all

801
00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:50,230
this extra time to pursue other projects

802
00:42:55,170 --> 00:42:53,440
and follow my passion and and you know

803
00:42:59,100 --> 00:42:55,180
make a series like interview with it

804
00:43:01,410 --> 00:42:59,110
it's I'm truly blessed what is it what

805
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:01,420
is it about this community that draws

806
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:06,010
you to it because when we look at you

807
00:43:10,740 --> 00:43:06,970
know the dates

808
00:43:12,930 --> 00:43:10,750
of the citizens hearing we're talking

809
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:12,940
about that that's that's quite a while

810
00:43:21,890 --> 00:43:15,610
ago was there already an interest in

811
00:43:26,130 --> 00:43:21,900
ufology and contact leading up to 2013

812
00:43:28,590 --> 00:43:26,140
yeah actually in 2007 I had my sighting

813
00:43:31,410 --> 00:43:28,600
which then got me on this path of trying

814
00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:31,420
to figure out what what happened which

815
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:33,640
led to going to one of Stephen Greer's

816
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:37,510
events in Arizona one of his c5 events

817
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:40,450
and three nights doing that seeing the

818
00:43:45,060 --> 00:43:42,610
lights in the sky being absolutely

819
00:43:51,290 --> 00:43:45,070
convinced that something else was was

820
00:44:06,380 --> 00:44:03,630
okay this this is what we're gonna do

821
00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:06,390
everybody I'm gonna keep talking but

822
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:09,550
Ruben we're just gonna switch I said we

823
00:44:16,650 --> 00:44:11,920
can't do this all night right we need to

824
00:44:19,020 --> 00:44:16,660
switch over to cell phone so let's go

825
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:19,030
ahead and I'll just keep talking instead

826
00:44:23,610 --> 00:44:22,210
of busing to a commercial break and I'm

827
00:44:27,180 --> 00:44:23,620
just gonna call you back so you just

828
00:44:31,110 --> 00:44:27,190
stay right there and just get ready for

829
00:44:33,930 --> 00:44:31,120
it Ruben get ready and we'll we'll go to

830
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:33,940
this other connection not that big of a

831
00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:37,930
deal everybody we have we have our

832
00:44:44,070 --> 00:44:40,000
methods so it's going to take me a

833
00:44:47,130 --> 00:44:44,080
second let me do this and it's it's so

834
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:47,140
funny that this is how we have to do

835
00:44:57,810 --> 00:44:55,690
things sometimes but let's see here this

836
00:45:03,380 --> 00:44:57,820
is everybody that's watching this is in

837
00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:03,390
real time right okay here we go

838
00:45:12,990 --> 00:45:06,190
should I say his number out loud so I

839
00:45:14,850 --> 00:45:13,000
don't blow it okay boom I'd rather do

840
00:45:17,230 --> 00:45:14,860
this live on the air than break to a

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commercial

842
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:19,620
plus it's much more fun you get to

843
00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:22,560
actually see me do this in real time so

844
00:45:26,650 --> 00:45:23,760
just like that

845
00:45:34,940 --> 00:45:26,660
will uh will bring up Ruben and and

846
00:45:43,780 --> 00:45:34,950
we'll take this route and here we go are

847
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:43,790
you there please leave your message man

848
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:47,850
you gotta love this man okay let's try

849
00:46:00,340 --> 00:45:56,370
it again oh man Rita now Rita this is

850
00:46:05,180 --> 00:46:00,350
much more fun this is much more fun oh

851
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:05,190
oh no okay I guess I am gonna go to

852
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:08,400
break okay all right I'm gonna go to

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00:46:11,630 --> 00:46:09,690
break right now here we go

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this is fade to black everybody just

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stay right there on the game changer

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Network in kg are a the planets our

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guest tonight Ruben Langdon we have bad

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connections Ruben is in a cabin high in

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the mountains I'm just gonna let

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everybody know it's not like he's you

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know in the middle of downtown Los

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this short break our guest tonight Ruben

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Langdon I'm Meryl signature stay right

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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here Jimmy Church our guest tonight

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975
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that tonight right before the break

976
00:52:07,410 --> 00:52:03,650
Reuben was telling us that it was a

977
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visit with Steven Greer doing a ce-5

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when you started to see things for the

979
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first time and you were convinced there

980
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was something else going on what did you

981
00:52:22,090 --> 00:52:17,600
see that night over those three days

982
00:52:25,810 --> 00:52:22,100
with Steven Greer I it was mostly just

983
00:52:29,740 --> 00:52:25,820
what lights in the sky you know that

984
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:29,750
were unexplained in things that were

985
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:31,490
probably running you know flying

986
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:33,530
thousands of miles across the sky

987
00:52:37,390 --> 00:52:35,570
thousands of miles an hour they were

988
00:52:42,940 --> 00:52:37,400
just so fast and there was like two

989
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lights one night flashes and quick like

990
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green lights one of the nights I forget

991
00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:49,220
I just remember three night so it kind

992
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of sealed the deal for me I had already

993
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done a lot of research and I had my

994
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other sighting and it sort of put me on

995
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this this hyper focused road track of

996
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okay let's let's figure this stuff out

997
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we got it we got to know what's going on

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here and then shortly after one thing

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led to another I was I was running I had

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a visual effects company in Marina del

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Rey at the time and I had this big space

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that I opened up once a month and we had

1003
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the et meetup groups and everybody from

1004
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Richard Dolan to who Barbara Lam we had

1005
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you know on Smith's you know the usual

1006
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suspects we had them all come in as

1007
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guests and talk about their experiences

1008
00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:41,540
talk about the research and let me jump

1009
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:44,240
in really quick well I believe I was

1010
00:53:52,270 --> 00:53:51,530
there it was it was a soundstage in the

1011
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back of a

1012
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another like a shopping mall off of

1013
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Lincoln right yeah yep

1014
00:54:02,410 --> 00:53:59,990
that was my office that was yours that

1015
00:54:09,460 --> 00:54:02,420
that place is gorgeous man it was big

1016
00:54:11,260 --> 00:54:09,470
yes yeah I was there for who was there

1017
00:54:17,650 --> 00:54:11,270
that night I think it was Yvonne Smith

1018
00:54:20,380 --> 00:54:17,660
actually and and dr. Leir spoke yes

1019
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that's right luckily you're doing

1020
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awesome he died right after that yeah

1021
00:54:31,930 --> 00:54:28,010
yeah shortly I we we did that for how

1022
00:54:34,420 --> 00:54:31,940
many years three years and then then I

1023
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packed up and moved across the country

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over to Atlanta because that's where the

1025
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film business was enough and that's what

1026
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while in Atlanta is when or just before

1027
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I moved to Atlanta right after Citizen

1028
00:54:54,970 --> 00:54:51,350
hearing I started filming for my series

1029
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and it was there that I spent the time

1030
00:54:59,470 --> 00:54:56,570
and editing and really sort of

1031
00:55:02,320 --> 00:54:59,480
solidified the idea but I had been

1032
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exposed to this world really for a

1033
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:05,540
decade now for well more than that 2007

1034
00:55:10,210 --> 00:55:08,000
but really really hardcore researching

1035
00:55:14,350 --> 00:55:10,220
for the past ten years and you also

1036
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:14,360
worked on Star Trek continues I did I

1037
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worked as doctor continues we're done I

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was a stunt coordinator and I played a

1039
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redshirt that didn't die right and it's

1040
00:55:31,540 --> 00:55:28,730
so funny how how small this circle is in

1041
00:55:33,700 --> 00:55:31,550
Hollywood because we've had everybody on

1042
00:55:36,220 --> 00:55:33,710
Star Trek continues on the show I've

1043
00:55:39,370 --> 00:55:36,230
also had a mole that

1044
00:55:43,870 --> 00:55:39,380
coast to coast is as well but that being

1045
00:55:46,810 --> 00:55:43,880
said the interest of of what is going on

1046
00:55:48,730 --> 00:55:46,820
in this community is also happening with

1047
00:55:53,380 --> 00:55:48,740
everybody else including you and your

1048
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:53,390
friends isn't it it is it's funny when I

1049
00:56:01,480 --> 00:55:57,770
when I first met Vic we would go I'm

1050
00:56:03,370 --> 00:56:01,490
often at the same sort of anime

1051
00:56:06,070 --> 00:56:03,380
comic-book conventions that he goes to

1052
00:56:08,650 --> 00:56:06,080
we frequent that circle

1053
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:08,660
and I had just come out of the citizen

1054
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:11,930
hearing and doing it and I had a DVD

1055
00:56:17,050 --> 00:56:14,650
boxset and I gave it to Vic and he said

1056
00:56:19,090 --> 00:56:17,060
Ruben you got to come hang out with me

1057
00:56:20,830 --> 00:56:19,100
we're doing Star Trek I'm like what you

1058
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:20,840
talking about I had no idea what it was

1059
00:56:24,850 --> 00:56:23,210
he's like yeah come come come help me do

1060
00:56:27,490 --> 00:56:24,860
this thing and I'm like oh cool

1061
00:56:29,380 --> 00:56:27,500
so is it was interesting the

1062
00:56:31,740 --> 00:56:29,390
synchronicities of the timing and and

1063
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:31,750
I'm a huge Star Trek fan I love the show

1064
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:34,730
you know from watching it watching the

1065
00:56:38,140 --> 00:56:36,410
old sixties version with my mom when I

1066
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:38,150
was little

1067
00:56:43,930 --> 00:56:40,970
on our black-and-white TV set to you

1068
00:56:46,870 --> 00:56:43,940
know the new generation to I'm a big fan

1069
00:56:48,850 --> 00:56:46,880
of Discovery I love loved they they

1070
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:48,860
brought back a lot of especially season

1071
00:56:55,740 --> 00:56:50,090
two brought back a lot of the old

1072
00:56:58,750 --> 00:56:55,750
feeling and energy of the original yeah

1073
00:57:01,210 --> 00:56:58,760
yeah Vic and the whole crew over there

1074
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:01,220
at Star Trek continues their dedication

1075
00:57:09,490 --> 00:57:07,250
to the original series and its feel and

1076
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:09,500
its vibe and they you know the technical

1077
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:10,970
stuff the look and the music and the

1078
00:57:17,470 --> 00:57:14,450
editing is a second to none it is

1079
00:57:23,170 --> 00:57:17,480
absolutely perfect and perfection based

1080
00:57:25,060 --> 00:57:23,180
but it's Vic doing Captain Kirk which

1081
00:57:27,130 --> 00:57:25,070
has got to be that's got to be one of

1082
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:27,140
the most difficult roles anybody could

1083
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:29,570
handle first off you're gonna have

1084
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:31,250
people come at you you're gonna have

1085
00:57:37,420 --> 00:57:34,610
extreme criticism and the second thing

1086
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:37,430
is you've got a choice do you do Captain

1087
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:41,210
Kirk or do you do the vibe of Captain

1088
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:44,480
Kirk and that's what he conquered he's

1089
00:57:49,210 --> 00:57:47,210
got the vibe of Kurt he did yeah after

1090
00:57:52,420 --> 00:57:49,220
you worried he will pull it off people

1091
00:57:54,490 --> 00:57:52,430
no no he was it was amazing and to be a

1092
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:54,500
part of I feel you know in a sense that

1093
00:57:58,720 --> 00:57:56,480
it's going down in history it's a part

1094
00:58:01,960 --> 00:57:58,730
of you know obviously not in you know

1095
00:58:03,250 --> 00:58:01,970
like the first one but in a sense the

1096
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:03,260
fans certainly loved it

1097
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:05,450
I had a great time being part of it made

1098
00:58:10,780 --> 00:58:08,330
so many good friends we still hang out

1099
00:58:14,380 --> 00:58:10,790
and talk to each other now so it was a

1100
00:58:17,500 --> 00:58:14,390
good is a good little run there yeah

1101
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:17,510
yeah you get so immersed into it after

1102
00:58:19,870 --> 00:58:19,610
you know you get like 15 minutes into

1103
00:58:31,900 --> 00:58:19,880
the

1104
00:58:34,089 --> 00:58:31,910
are in it you are in it now let's let's

1105
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:34,099
continue this conversation actually

1106
00:58:41,230 --> 00:58:38,089
because when the the citizen hearing and

1107
00:58:43,420 --> 00:58:41,240
it's hard to comprehend that we are

1108
00:58:45,220 --> 00:58:43,430
talking now seven almost eight years ago

1109
00:58:49,329 --> 00:58:45,230
right okay

1110
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:49,339
yeah and how far things have come since

1111
00:58:57,490 --> 00:58:53,690
then for you Ruben have they come far

1112
00:59:01,240 --> 00:58:57,500
enough or did you think that maybe we

1113
00:59:05,049 --> 00:59:01,250
would be further today what what's your

1114
00:59:07,329 --> 00:59:05,059
feeling it's an interesting question

1115
00:59:09,130 --> 00:59:07,339
because when I you know when I was in it

1116
00:59:12,759 --> 00:59:09,140
when we were producing the Citizen

1117
00:59:13,990 --> 00:59:12,769
hearing in Washington DC doing the you

1118
00:59:18,579 --> 00:59:14,000
know in front of Congress

1119
00:59:22,289 --> 00:59:18,589
former members of Congress and talking

1120
00:59:24,910 --> 00:59:22,299
about the subject and having some

1121
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:24,920
publication that not really you know not

1122
00:59:28,690 --> 00:59:26,930
a whole lot the New York Times gave us

1123
00:59:32,109 --> 00:59:28,700
like the back page and it was like the

1124
00:59:33,849 --> 00:59:32,119
first time and in the times history that

1125
00:59:36,309 --> 00:59:33,859
they even wrote about the subject and a

1126
00:59:39,789 --> 00:59:36,319
positive semi positive manner

1127
00:59:42,990 --> 00:59:39,799
it wasn't until 2017 until they did the

1128
00:59:47,049 --> 00:59:43,000
full the full you know front page deal

1129
00:59:48,609 --> 00:59:47,059
so at that time I thought this is it

1130
00:59:50,170 --> 00:59:48,619
we're gonna have disclosure this is

1131
00:59:52,839 --> 00:59:50,180
going to be a big thing and then and

1132
00:59:55,870 --> 00:59:52,849
then when that sort of finished it was

1133
00:59:58,569 --> 00:59:55,880
it was like what how come we just we

1134
01:00:01,950 --> 00:59:58,579
just had five days at the National Press

1135
01:00:05,230 --> 01:00:01,960
Club former members of Congress it was

1136
01:00:07,029 --> 01:00:05,240
incredible testimony what's going on how

1137
01:00:10,990 --> 01:00:07,039
come nobody's talking about this how

1138
01:00:12,940 --> 01:00:11,000
come the media basically shunned us what

1139
01:00:15,420 --> 01:00:12,950
did we do wrong what did I watch what's

1140
01:00:16,690 --> 01:00:15,430
the deal here this is the biggest news

1141
01:00:21,490 --> 01:00:16,700
ever

1142
01:00:25,690 --> 01:00:21,500
and then I soon realized the the

1143
01:00:28,210 --> 01:00:25,700
paradigm the truth embargo and the

1144
01:00:30,460 --> 01:00:28,220
paradigm that the media had has to play

1145
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:30,470
in all of this and even though it was

1146
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:32,480
brought up during the hearings Dolan and

1147
01:00:35,150 --> 01:00:33,210
Greer

1148
01:00:38,690 --> 01:00:35,160
many others didn't she and they all

1149
01:00:40,550 --> 01:00:38,700
talked about the media embargo but I

1150
01:00:44,510 --> 01:00:40,560
didn't fully grasp it at the time

1151
01:00:46,550 --> 01:00:44,520
so it was it took me sort of going into

1152
01:00:49,300 --> 01:00:46,560
recluse so shortly after the hearings

1153
01:00:52,550 --> 01:00:49,310
you know moving to Atlanta I sort of

1154
01:00:54,620 --> 01:00:52,560
gave up the studio left with my partners

1155
01:00:57,110 --> 01:00:54,630
and I was kind of like trying to

1156
01:00:59,540 --> 01:00:57,120
literally run away from from Hollywood

1157
01:01:02,660 --> 01:00:59,550
run away from LA and sort of start this

1158
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:02,670
new life I was working on the film

1159
01:01:09,860 --> 01:01:03,290
ant-man

1160
01:01:12,350 --> 01:01:09,870
and then it when I started going deeper

1161
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:12,360
with the with these interviews and

1162
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:16,290
talking to the channels talking to the

1163
01:01:20,300 --> 01:01:18,210
the people who channel these entities

1164
01:01:22,190 --> 01:01:20,310
and asking these these bigger deeper

1165
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:22,200
questions to try to really understand

1166
01:01:27,890 --> 01:01:24,810
the construct of reality and understand

1167
01:01:31,250 --> 01:01:27,900
what's going on here and I got a better

1168
01:01:33,530 --> 01:01:31,260
understanding so it took so at that time

1169
01:01:36,020 --> 01:01:33,540
in 2013 I had some expectations they

1170
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:36,030
were sort of blown out and then then a

1171
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:37,770
sense then I've been doing this inner

1172
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:42,480
work more of a spiritual path of while

1173
01:01:47,630 --> 01:01:46,050
simultaneously trying to usher along

1174
01:01:53,300 --> 01:01:47,640
disclosure but doing it in a different

1175
01:01:55,370 --> 01:01:53,310
way sort of I cueing the the usual you

1176
01:01:57,670 --> 01:01:55,380
know evidence-based material and sort of

1177
01:02:02,480 --> 01:01:57,680
looking for a different Avenue and

1178
01:02:06,890 --> 01:02:02,490
through these interviews I found a much

1179
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:06,900
deeper broader spectrum visual

1180
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:11,250
understanding like I say visual but sort

1181
01:02:15,050 --> 01:02:13,530
of expanding my vision mm-hmm and

1182
01:02:19,490 --> 01:02:15,060
understanding things in a

1183
01:02:22,850 --> 01:02:19,500
multi-dimensional way really and when I

1184
01:02:28,070 --> 01:02:22,860
was able to not be upset so where we are

1185
01:02:30,890 --> 01:02:28,080
right now doesn't surprise me it's

1186
01:02:33,350 --> 01:02:30,900
exciting because we're still getting the

1187
01:02:34,910 --> 01:02:33,360
trickles you know anybody who's been in

1188
01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:34,920
this knows that there's much much more

1189
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:36,480
than just the to the start of the

1190
01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:38,130
Academy and three videos from the

1191
01:02:41,540 --> 01:02:38,640
Pentagon

1192
01:02:43,130 --> 01:02:41,550
we know there's way more and I guess

1193
01:02:47,479 --> 01:02:43,140
you've had on your show

1194
01:02:50,029 --> 01:02:47,489
so is it happening fast enough it's

1195
01:02:51,890 --> 01:02:50,039
actually from my understanding right now

1196
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:51,900
it's we're right on time

1197
01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:53,609
this is exactly how it's supposed to

1198
01:03:00,289 --> 01:02:55,609
play out now

1199
01:03:04,180 --> 01:03:00,299
there is probably nothing more vicious

1200
01:03:06,799 --> 01:03:04,190
than Hollywood and trying to get a gig

1201
01:03:10,279 --> 01:03:06,809
right and and you know what I'm talking

1202
01:03:13,099 --> 01:03:10,289
about it is it is competitive it doesn't

1203
01:03:16,299 --> 01:03:13,109
matter if you're a stunt coordinator a

1204
01:03:22,759 --> 01:03:16,309
director a second director right

1205
01:03:26,890 --> 01:03:22,769
production wake up costumes camera

1206
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:26,900
lighting audio now all of this and

1207
01:03:34,339 --> 01:03:31,410
everybody wants your gig it is vicious

1208
01:03:40,759 --> 01:03:34,349
gnarly nasty you're swimming with sharks

1209
01:03:44,479 --> 01:03:40,769
no question about it and as as as has

1210
01:03:47,719 --> 01:03:44,489
warmed up to this as you were getting

1211
01:03:56,420 --> 01:03:47,729
into the field of ufology you probably

1212
01:03:58,249 --> 01:03:56,430
thought it was a safer environment yeah

1213
01:04:03,769 --> 01:03:58,259
I know there is there's a lot of

1214
01:04:06,709 --> 01:04:03,779
opinions there's a lot of yeah there's a

1215
01:04:10,130 --> 01:04:06,719
lot of like our good friend Adam Apollo

1216
01:04:13,279 --> 01:04:10,140
said it's a line minefield of

1217
01:04:16,999 --> 01:04:13,289
disinformation and you have to navigate

1218
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:17,009
it carefully you have to and after the

1219
01:04:22,189 --> 01:04:19,170
citizens hearing because now you you

1220
01:04:26,719 --> 01:04:22,199
know you bring on 40 of the most

1221
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:26,729
credible witnesses from all parts of

1222
01:04:32,839 --> 01:04:29,609
society in the military and and and so

1223
01:04:36,009 --> 01:04:32,849
forth forward they come forward you've

1224
01:04:39,979 --> 01:04:36,019
got six former members of Congress

1225
01:04:44,180 --> 01:04:39,989
sitting there as judge and jury right to

1226
01:04:47,719 --> 01:04:44,190
absorb all of this you've got witnesses

1227
01:04:50,269 --> 01:04:47,729
from 10 different countries and you

1228
01:04:53,809 --> 01:04:50,279
would have thought that that was enough

1229
01:04:55,519 --> 01:04:53,819
it's after the citizens hearing it's

1230
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:55,529
it's everything else that ends up

1231
01:04:59,370 --> 01:04:56,290
happening

1232
01:05:01,020 --> 01:04:59,380
right where you think that you know if

1233
01:05:04,350 --> 01:05:01,030
I'm understanding you correctly that

1234
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:04,360
this is it this should be it and instead

1235
01:05:08,460 --> 01:05:06,850
it was it was the opposite and there is

1236
01:05:10,670 --> 01:05:08,470
a lot of fighting and there's a lot of

1237
01:05:15,030 --> 01:05:10,680
backstabbing and finger-pointing and in

1238
01:05:17,790 --> 01:05:15,040
opinions including critics of the

1239
01:05:19,710 --> 01:05:17,800
citizens hearing on disclosure when all

1240
01:05:23,370 --> 01:05:19,720
you did was put your best foot forward

1241
01:05:27,210 --> 01:05:23,380
right oh yeah yeah I put everything I

1242
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:27,220
had into that that was quite the

1243
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:30,130
experience I have no regrets I'm so glad

1244
01:05:36,900 --> 01:05:33,130
I went through it but yeah there's

1245
01:05:38,970 --> 01:05:36,910
there's still I mean overall though you

1246
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:38,980
know the Citizen hearing I think to date

1247
01:05:46,410 --> 01:05:43,570
is still this this monumental event for

1248
01:05:48,510 --> 01:05:46,420
the community right and in the general

1249
01:05:52,050 --> 01:05:48,520
population most people have no idea what

1250
01:05:53,730 --> 01:05:52,060
it is and don't really even if you

1251
01:05:55,290 --> 01:05:53,740
pointed out they're like wow this this

1252
01:05:57,750 --> 01:05:55,300
is pretty impressive this is this

1253
01:05:59,760 --> 01:05:57,760
happened I'm like yeah how come nobody

1254
01:06:01,860 --> 01:05:59,770
knows about it well that's unfortunately

1255
01:06:06,660 --> 01:06:01,870
that's that's the truth embargo that we

1256
01:06:08,970 --> 01:06:06,670
have on this on the media but the the

1257
01:06:13,740 --> 01:06:08,980
awareness now you know seven years later

1258
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:13,750
is isn't now more there than ever so

1259
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:16,240
maybe now is the time maybe now's the

1260
01:06:22,460 --> 01:06:19,570
time to do a citizen hearing or to to

1261
01:06:26,340 --> 01:06:22,470
re-release the Citizen hearing possibly

1262
01:06:29,210 --> 01:06:26,350
so I think the time will tell well how

1263
01:06:31,980 --> 01:06:29,220
was your how was your overall view

1264
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:31,990
changed or has it stayed the same when

1265
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:35,650
you go from your original citing then to

1266
01:06:41,490 --> 01:06:38,890
Greer and a ce-5 protocols setting

1267
01:06:43,620 --> 01:06:41,500
through the citizens hearing and and

1268
01:06:47,790 --> 01:06:43,630
collecting this data and doing your

1269
01:06:50,010 --> 01:06:47,800
research to where you are today what how

1270
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:50,020
was your view changed on the subject of

1271
01:06:57,030 --> 01:06:54,850
what ETS even could be oh man it's gone

1272
01:06:58,650 --> 01:06:57,040
it's one you know from A to Z and then

1273
01:07:02,490 --> 01:06:58,660
you know many other alphabets that we

1274
01:07:04,110 --> 01:07:02,500
don't have anything you know Danny

1275
01:07:06,990 --> 01:07:04,120
Sheehan in the Citizen hearing actually

1276
01:07:09,150 --> 01:07:07,000
said that the best and and for many

1277
01:07:10,529 --> 01:07:09,160
people who are into this this

1278
01:07:15,420 --> 01:07:10,539
information

1279
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:15,430
for me that the et/pt pill so to say was

1280
01:07:21,870 --> 01:07:18,930
when the red pill was my gateway drug to

1281
01:07:23,819 --> 01:07:21,880
what is reality right to really sort of

1282
01:07:26,039 --> 01:07:23,829
shake it up you you go wrong in life and

1283
01:07:27,390 --> 01:07:26,049
you you sort of see things you see the

1284
01:07:29,339 --> 01:07:27,400
world through a lens we're told at

1285
01:07:33,150 --> 01:07:29,349
school this is got to get the job you

1286
01:07:37,859 --> 01:07:33,160
got to go do Burris learn your math all

1287
01:07:39,809 --> 01:07:37,869
that good stuff and you kind of just go

1288
01:07:42,779 --> 01:07:39,819
on you know I had my passion with action

1289
01:07:46,260 --> 01:07:42,789
films I trained hard I worked with the

1290
01:07:50,059 --> 01:07:46,270
best great time no regrets whatsoever

1291
01:07:52,740 --> 01:07:50,069
and I've had an amazing amazing life and

1292
01:07:56,789 --> 01:07:52,750
amazing people to work with and

1293
01:08:00,150 --> 01:07:56,799
experienced things but the EP pill to me

1294
01:08:04,140 --> 01:08:00,160
is really it it's reshaped my entire

1295
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:04,150
worldview of how I see the world I see

1296
01:08:08,279 --> 01:08:05,410
the world through a different lens and

1297
01:08:10,410 --> 01:08:08,289
that that it's constantly evolving from

1298
01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:10,420
the lens I saw it just knowing that

1299
01:08:17,490 --> 01:08:12,160
we're not alone in the universe or even

1300
01:08:20,459 --> 01:08:17,500
on this planet in 2013 to now having

1301
01:08:21,570 --> 01:08:20,469
direct conversations in direct

1302
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:21,580
conversations through interviews with

1303
01:08:28,289 --> 01:08:24,250
that but now having my own telepathic

1304
01:08:33,300 --> 01:08:28,299
communications with entities and

1305
01:08:35,669 --> 01:08:33,310
consciousnesses that I can connected or

1306
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:35,679
directly with so I went from you know

1307
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:38,650
action stud man who really didn't have a

1308
01:08:46,769 --> 01:08:41,890
spiritual bone in his body - you know

1309
01:08:49,110 --> 01:08:46,779
meditating - Qigong and now - telepathic

1310
01:08:54,510 --> 01:08:49,120
communication with extraterrestrials

1311
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:54,520
it's it's been a gradual experience I

1312
01:08:59,459 --> 01:08:57,130
just you know many people have their aha

1313
01:09:01,650 --> 01:08:59,469
moments I guess just having seen those

1314
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:01,660
things in the sky was my aha moment but

1315
01:09:07,789 --> 01:09:03,130
I've learned to develop these skills

1316
01:09:10,769 --> 01:09:07,799
I've learned that anybody can become

1317
01:09:14,700 --> 01:09:10,779
telepathic that anybody can have contact

1318
01:09:18,749 --> 01:09:14,710
if they seek it out and that has been I

1319
01:09:20,610 --> 01:09:18,759
guess the biggest you know the the

1320
01:09:22,890 --> 01:09:20,620
widest gamut and then seeing the world

1321
01:09:23,729 --> 01:09:22,900
through a different lens as far as the

1322
01:09:26,039 --> 01:09:23,739
political stage

1323
01:09:28,649 --> 01:09:26,049
things the economical state of things

1324
01:09:30,629 --> 01:09:28,659
the geopolitical like all of it like you

1325
01:09:34,259 --> 01:09:30,639
understand why we're in the situation

1326
01:09:36,660 --> 01:09:34,269
we're in if you do research and in the

1327
01:09:38,759 --> 01:09:36,670
UFO arena you you really understand the

1328
01:09:41,069 --> 01:09:38,769
bigger picture of all I think all of it

1329
01:09:43,079 --> 01:09:41,079
you don't even have to go into the

1330
01:09:45,599 --> 01:09:43,089
politics and stuff because you can sort

1331
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:45,609
of use that same model of the truth

1332
01:09:50,519 --> 01:09:47,409
embargo why is it being secret what is

1333
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:50,529
this press why is the press not talking

1334
01:09:56,370 --> 01:09:53,440
more about this and just uncovering that

1335
01:09:58,589 --> 01:09:56,380
UFO aspect you can sort of play that on

1336
01:10:01,560 --> 01:09:58,599
a bigger scale the micro and the macro

1337
01:10:03,209 --> 01:10:01,570
to understand oh this is how the entire

1338
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:03,219
world works with international banking

1339
01:10:05,970 --> 01:10:05,110
and all that goofiness the plan Zdenek

1340
01:10:11,450 --> 01:10:05,980
and all that fun stuff

1341
01:10:13,950 --> 01:10:11,460
is it a combination of the original UFO

1342
01:10:16,649 --> 01:10:13,960
hypothesis you know the nuts and bolts

1343
01:10:19,850 --> 01:10:16,659
the flying saucer this over disc you

1344
01:10:24,419 --> 01:10:19,860
know little green men and an

1345
01:10:29,330 --> 01:10:24,429
interdimensional entangled aspect of it

1346
01:10:32,370 --> 01:10:29,340
that may be you know a parallel world

1347
01:10:37,020 --> 01:10:32,380
multiverse situation where it's not

1348
01:10:39,779 --> 01:10:37,030
necessarily a nuts-and-bolts craft with

1349
01:10:43,609 --> 01:10:39,789
an engine you know traveling the stars

1350
01:10:46,020 --> 01:10:43,619
is it just a combination of the both I

1351
01:10:49,169 --> 01:10:46,030
well I think it is a combination but I

1352
01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:49,179
think it's also our language and we as a

1353
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:52,510
human race as we are evolving so is our

1354
01:10:56,069 --> 01:10:54,730
language and our understanding of what

1355
01:10:59,430 --> 01:10:56,079
is what is reality

1356
01:11:02,669 --> 01:10:59,440
so therefore this idea of ETS evolves

1357
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:02,679
with us evolves with our language and I

1358
01:11:07,259 --> 01:11:05,050
think they always were extra dimensional

1359
01:11:09,859 --> 01:11:07,269
we just didn't have the terminology or

1360
01:11:16,379 --> 01:11:09,869
understanding collectively as a species

1361
01:11:17,939 --> 01:11:16,389
to fully understand that so you have if

1362
01:11:20,339 --> 01:11:17,949
using the earlier accounts of these

1363
01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:20,349
beings coming down they point to the

1364
01:11:26,850 --> 01:11:24,400
stars because that's the the the you

1365
01:11:28,739 --> 01:11:26,860
know the the closest rendition or the

1366
01:11:30,930 --> 01:11:28,749
closest thing that we understand at that

1367
01:11:33,149 --> 01:11:30,940
time now that we understand you know

1368
01:11:36,330 --> 01:11:33,159
Nicola the famous Nikola Tesla quote

1369
01:11:37,679 --> 01:11:36,340
when you think in terms of what is

1370
01:11:39,839 --> 01:11:37,689
reality thinking

1371
01:11:41,370 --> 01:11:39,849
of energy frequency and vibration and

1372
01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:41,380
form everything is a vibrational

1373
01:11:45,620 --> 01:11:43,510
frequency which we heard a million times

1374
01:11:48,239 --> 01:11:45,630
but when you really understand that and

1375
01:11:49,770 --> 01:11:48,249
the ETS are pointing you know a

1376
01:11:50,969 --> 01:11:49,780
playground beam is pointing to the

1377
01:11:52,620 --> 01:11:50,979
Pleiades star system

1378
01:11:55,379 --> 01:11:52,630
they're simply doing that as a reference

1379
01:11:59,449 --> 01:11:55,389
point because it holds the similar or

1380
01:12:02,520 --> 01:11:59,459
same vibrational frequency as the

1381
01:12:04,020 --> 01:12:02,530
archetypal energy of the Pleiades that

1382
01:12:05,339 --> 01:12:04,030
we have through our storytelling and

1383
01:12:08,819 --> 01:12:05,349
everything else so as we're evolving

1384
01:12:11,370 --> 01:12:08,829
through our language we're finding

1385
01:12:14,279 --> 01:12:11,380
better ways to define what this

1386
01:12:16,169 --> 01:12:14,289
experience is so yes it is nuts and

1387
01:12:18,359 --> 01:12:16,179
bolts because that's the limited

1388
01:12:20,549 --> 01:12:18,369
language that we had in the past but as

1389
01:12:22,319 --> 01:12:20,559
we're expanding our language now we're

1390
01:12:24,409 --> 01:12:22,329
understanding that it's much much more

1391
01:12:26,459 --> 01:12:24,419
and deeper than just nuts and bolts

1392
01:12:29,399 --> 01:12:26,469
ships flying around in flying saucers

1393
01:12:32,549 --> 01:12:29,409
there's a there's an interdimensional

1394
01:12:35,549 --> 01:12:32,559
component that beings do travel to ships

1395
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:35,559
but there's also a telepathic tell

1396
01:12:42,989 --> 01:12:39,010
empathic communication aspect to it

1397
01:12:44,459 --> 01:12:42,999
there's an archetypal you know our

1398
01:12:48,179 --> 01:12:44,469
native cultures have described this

1399
01:12:50,969 --> 01:12:48,189
there's this archetypal energy frequency

1400
01:12:52,859 --> 01:12:50,979
to it so it's evolving it's constantly

1401
01:12:55,259 --> 01:12:52,869
changing and by the time they actually

1402
01:12:57,029 --> 01:12:55,269
physically land here collectively where

1403
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:57,039
we can all experience it I think that

1404
01:12:59,339 --> 01:12:58,090
experience is going to be vastly

1405
01:13:01,919 --> 01:12:59,349
different than what we're projecting

1406
01:13:04,169 --> 01:13:01,929
right now as a collective because we're

1407
01:13:07,469 --> 01:13:04,179
only seeing what we can see right now

1408
01:13:10,649 --> 01:13:07,479
and if you you know our future

1409
01:13:13,229 --> 01:13:10,659
projection of what is now is going to

1410
01:13:14,669 --> 01:13:13,239
change 10 years from now like because

1411
01:13:16,890 --> 01:13:14,679
we're going to evolve in whatever

1412
01:13:20,209 --> 01:13:16,900
direction we decide to involve in and we

1413
01:13:23,429 --> 01:13:20,219
have a vastly different perception or

1414
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:23,439
idea of what 10 years from now future is

1415
01:13:29,339 --> 01:13:25,570
compared to right now what is 10 years

1416
01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:29,349
or 20 years into the future yeah yeah we

1417
01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:32,320
have a very limited understanding or you

1418
01:13:37,529 --> 01:13:34,719
know what or lack of understanding we

1419
01:13:41,129 --> 01:13:37,539
you know in order we we really don't

1420
01:13:42,839 --> 01:13:41,139
have any idea what we are dealing with

1421
01:13:46,739 --> 01:13:42,849
and there's no reason to think that we

1422
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:46,749
should understand how could we write any

1423
01:13:52,830 --> 01:13:49,570
more than well any more than a dog

1424
01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:52,840
understand are you a little bit yeah why

1425
01:14:01,649 --> 01:13:57,360
is that I think well I think it's it's

1426
01:14:05,010 --> 01:14:01,659
because what we do so in my show I'm

1427
01:14:07,470 --> 01:14:05,020
talking to a lot of very you had many of

1428
01:14:09,089 --> 01:14:07,480
them on your show of the channelers

1429
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:09,099
Darryl ANCA being one of the most

1430
01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:13,449
popular sure so these these people are

1431
01:14:18,419 --> 01:14:16,960
able to tune in to you know like it you

1432
01:14:24,060 --> 01:14:18,429
know just arrows describe this like a

1433
01:14:26,879 --> 01:14:24,070
radio box that or a TV set that can tune

1434
01:14:29,910 --> 01:14:26,889
in to these frequencies that are playing

1435
01:14:32,970 --> 01:14:29,920
through the cosmic you know broadcaster

1436
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:32,980
and if you have the right signal you can

1437
01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:35,290
just simply shift from like watching you

1438
01:14:39,750 --> 01:14:37,679
know all the hundreds of thousands of

1439
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:39,760
cable channels you can just flip the

1440
01:14:44,850 --> 01:14:41,650
channel pretty easily and then you get

1441
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:44,860
your still the Darryl Hank of the vessel

1442
01:14:52,140 --> 01:14:46,690
but you're able to tune into the bashar

1443
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:52,150
channel and then i think this is giving

1444
01:14:56,540 --> 01:14:54,610
this the more people that we have these

1445
01:15:00,810 --> 01:14:56,550
conversations like i'm having with that

1446
01:15:03,870 --> 01:15:00,820
can how disability and sort of my goal

1447
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:03,880
with the show is to reach out to them as

1448
01:15:11,010 --> 01:15:07,210
many of these intuitive channels people

1449
01:15:14,580 --> 01:15:11,020
that i can access and and try to fit

1450
01:15:16,109 --> 01:15:14,590
together this puzzle finding out what

1451
01:15:17,810 --> 01:15:16,119
everybody's saying because yes they're

1452
01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:17,820
slightly different but there's a bigger

1453
01:15:23,490 --> 01:15:21,280
fuller picture that seems to connect the

1454
01:15:27,330 --> 01:15:23,500
dots all of these channels all of the

1455
01:15:30,390 --> 01:15:27,340
even the the quantum researchers the the

1456
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:30,400
UF ology all of it there's a big picture

1457
01:15:36,060 --> 01:15:33,810
that that's been coming together and

1458
01:15:39,660 --> 01:15:36,070
ultimately I can't say with absolute

1459
01:15:42,149 --> 01:15:39,670
confidence that yes this is it but the

1460
01:15:45,750 --> 01:15:42,159
more research I do and the more in-depth

1461
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:45,760
I go the more I'm finding out that there

1462
01:15:53,580 --> 01:15:50,170
is a sort of a universal there's

1463
01:15:57,569 --> 01:15:53,590
universal going into the universal laws

1464
01:15:59,339 --> 01:15:57,579
and those universal laws even though the

1465
01:16:02,439 --> 01:15:59,349
language or the interpretation may

1466
01:16:04,509 --> 01:16:02,449
slightly differ from from being to beam

1467
01:16:07,540 --> 01:16:04,519
those laws essentially don't change

1468
01:16:08,919 --> 01:16:07,550
they're there they exist in in whichever

1469
01:16:10,449 --> 01:16:08,929
direction you want to look at if you

1470
01:16:12,219 --> 01:16:10,459
want to look at to the science direction

1471
01:16:15,339 --> 01:16:12,229
to the channel direction to the religion

1472
01:16:18,399 --> 01:16:15,349
direction or the philosophical direction

1473
01:16:21,009 --> 01:16:18,409
like these things kind of all come

1474
01:16:24,910 --> 01:16:21,019
together and they're and they're the

1475
01:16:26,770 --> 01:16:24,920
same would your telepathic for the lack

1476
01:16:29,370 --> 01:16:26,780
of a better word it's the word you used

1477
01:16:31,419 --> 01:16:29,380
right but for your telepathic

1478
01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:31,429
communication that is happening now

1479
01:16:38,830 --> 01:16:34,400
would that have happened if you didn't

1480
01:16:40,689 --> 01:16:38,840
make ed right is this something that you

1481
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:40,699
know would have came and found you

1482
01:16:47,279 --> 01:16:42,130
anyway

1483
01:16:49,959 --> 01:16:47,289
yeah so I don't claim to be a telepathic

1484
01:16:56,259 --> 01:16:49,969
you know intuitive channel or knew that

1485
01:16:58,779 --> 01:16:56,269
stuff I have from since diving into this

1486
01:17:00,640 --> 01:16:58,789
world I have and I think I mentioned

1487
01:17:02,859 --> 01:17:00,650
this in the last time you show I've done

1488
01:17:05,620 --> 01:17:02,869
ayahuasca ceremonies again I've been

1489
01:17:07,509 --> 01:17:05,630
able to experience what I believe is

1490
01:17:10,750 --> 01:17:07,519
telepathic communication and that sense

1491
01:17:15,129 --> 01:17:10,760
so I was able to sort of you know have a

1492
01:17:16,839 --> 01:17:15,139
get images and and send images to other

1493
01:17:19,540 --> 01:17:16,849
people in the in the circle the medicine

1494
01:17:24,250 --> 01:17:19,550
circle and they were able to do the same

1495
01:17:26,199 --> 01:17:24,260
back so in later we we in the morning

1496
01:17:31,390 --> 01:17:26,209
after the medicine were off we exchanged

1497
01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:31,400
notes and sure enough those images were

1498
01:17:36,069 --> 01:17:33,110
being sent and received you know just as

1499
01:17:41,850 --> 01:17:36,079
I was sending and receiving later on I

1500
01:17:44,529 --> 01:17:41,860
received a download so to say from a I

1501
01:17:46,689 --> 01:17:44,539
did an interview with Linda mom how

1502
01:17:50,830 --> 01:17:46,699
about their pheromones has ever been

1503
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:50,840
released but I had a contact experience

1504
01:17:59,350 --> 01:17:54,489
from mantis beam and receive these

1505
01:18:02,049 --> 01:17:59,360
telepathic images and sensations and

1506
01:18:04,180 --> 01:18:02,059
feelings and very similar I can just

1507
01:18:05,859 --> 01:18:04,190
compare it kind of to that ayahuasca

1508
01:18:08,770 --> 01:18:05,869
experience that's the closest thing I

1509
01:18:12,359 --> 01:18:08,780
can I can compare it to since then I

1510
01:18:15,700 --> 01:18:12,369
haven't had any full-on telepathic

1511
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:15,710
downloads or images but I have noticed

1512
01:18:21,580 --> 01:18:19,610
more intuitive in the sense that you

1513
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:21,590
know I maybe I'm following my gut more

1514
01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:24,290
or I'm feeling with my heart more I'm

1515
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:27,110
feeling emotions and I go into

1516
01:18:33,430 --> 01:18:29,810
meditations now and I can try to sense

1517
01:18:36,030 --> 01:18:33,440
the the feelings behind different ideas

1518
01:18:39,940 --> 01:18:36,040
concepts conversations people

1519
01:18:42,970 --> 01:18:39,950
interactions and when I when I do that I

1520
01:18:46,090 --> 01:18:42,980
seem to have a broader understanding

1521
01:18:47,770 --> 01:18:46,100
than just the logical mind than just you

1522
01:18:49,420 --> 01:18:47,780
know critical thinking and these kinds

1523
01:18:53,350 --> 01:18:49,430
of things I'm able to go a step deeper

1524
01:18:55,390 --> 01:18:53,360
and go an extra layer by using some of

1525
01:18:57,490 --> 01:18:55,400
these techniques I learned from over the

1526
01:19:00,580 --> 01:18:57,500
years from the meditations and and from

1527
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:00,590
these particular experiences with you

1528
01:19:06,490 --> 01:19:03,530
know with the medicine or this one it's

1529
01:19:08,410 --> 01:19:06,500
only happened once well only happened

1530
01:19:12,100 --> 01:19:08,420
once in the extreme manner that it

1531
01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:12,110
happened with this mantis beam so those

1532
01:19:16,030 --> 01:19:13,760
are sort of my two reference points now

1533
01:19:22,530 --> 01:19:16,040
that I can use to help build off of and

1534
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:22,540
use subtle intuitive intuition right so

1535
01:19:27,100 --> 01:19:24,410
identify also the questions but I just

1536
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:27,110
wanted to clarify that that this has

1537
01:19:31,810 --> 01:19:29,810
been my path with the understanding the

1538
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:31,820
telepathic communication thing yeah and

1539
01:19:36,700 --> 01:19:34,730
so yeah I think you answered the

1540
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:36,710
question but I'm not even worried about

1541
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:39,650
that is how it's what you said it's what

1542
01:19:44,350 --> 01:19:41,570
you said that's more important let's

1543
01:19:46,860 --> 01:19:44,360
let's focus on this mantis being for a

1544
01:19:53,620 --> 01:19:46,870
second because you're very clearly

1545
01:19:56,140 --> 01:19:53,630
defining who gave you this download so

1546
01:20:00,820 --> 01:19:56,150
how do you know how do you know it was a

1547
01:20:03,370 --> 01:20:00,830
mantis being so I do I wanted to answer

1548
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:03,380
the question now so because so the

1549
01:20:08,830 --> 01:20:07,010
reason so I was doing this the serious

1550
01:20:10,660 --> 01:20:08,840
interview with it I had started it and I

1551
01:20:13,660 --> 01:20:10,670
started asking all these questions to

1552
01:20:17,229 --> 01:20:13,670
these Chandler's about different races

1553
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:17,239
and human race in our our creation where

1554
01:20:21,090 --> 01:20:17,930
do we come from

1555
01:20:23,410 --> 01:20:21,100
which races make up the human genome

1556
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:23,420
these are all questions that I asked in

1557
01:20:28,510 --> 01:20:26,330
the show so yes I was fully engaged in

1558
01:20:29,589 --> 01:20:28,520
the show when I had this visitation from

1559
01:20:34,359 --> 01:20:29,599
this mantis beam

1560
01:20:38,169 --> 01:20:34,369
and in a sense I was downloaded images

1561
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:38,179
and it was almost electrical like my

1562
01:20:45,339 --> 01:20:41,570
whole body was vibrating my teeth were

1563
01:20:46,750 --> 01:20:45,349
chattering and clacking I felt kind of

1564
01:20:49,299 --> 01:20:46,760
sick I didn't know what was going on I

1565
01:20:52,449 --> 01:20:49,309
went to lay down and and then I

1566
01:20:55,149 --> 01:20:52,459
basically got this information so I can

1567
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:55,159
say but I interpolated as these images

1568
01:21:03,250 --> 01:20:56,449
and sensations and everything were

1569
01:21:05,949 --> 01:21:03,260
happening as to the human experiment

1570
01:21:07,959 --> 01:21:05,959
right thank you what is this was a big

1571
01:21:12,129 --> 01:21:07,969
question that I was asking at the time

1572
01:21:13,899 --> 01:21:12,139
where what what genomes what key races

1573
01:21:16,619 --> 01:21:13,909
sort of make up the human experience and

1574
01:21:19,779 --> 01:21:16,629
why and what is this all about

1575
01:21:23,339 --> 01:21:19,789
and so I got that as well as other

1576
01:21:26,799 --> 01:21:23,349
downloads about draconian 'z and

1577
01:21:28,779 --> 01:21:26,809
different things and I sort of kept that

1578
01:21:30,399 --> 01:21:28,789
experience it was on a lunar eclipse the

1579
01:21:32,349 --> 01:21:30,409
night of the lunar eclipse I just come

1580
01:21:37,199 --> 01:21:32,359
back from I'm sort of watching it

1581
01:21:42,389 --> 01:21:37,209
watching the movie set or I just say and

1582
01:21:46,359 --> 01:21:42,399
and then coincidentally I'd say about

1583
01:21:51,429 --> 01:21:46,369
six months later I was at the UFO

1584
01:21:57,310 --> 01:21:51,439
Congress and I think was just hanging

1585
01:21:59,199 --> 01:21:57,320
out I forget but the see Miguel Mendoza

1586
01:22:02,020 --> 01:21:59,209
and Barbara Lim had released a book

1587
01:22:05,770 --> 01:22:02,030
called meet the hybrids right and they

1588
01:22:08,109 --> 01:22:05,780
were they were at at at the convention

1589
01:22:11,770 --> 01:22:08,119
sort of they were doing a panel or

1590
01:22:13,959 --> 01:22:11,780
talking about it and I saw it I was like

1591
01:22:15,459 --> 01:22:13,969
oh wow that's interesting these people

1592
01:22:17,649 --> 01:22:15,469
had some really interesting things to

1593
01:22:20,049 --> 01:22:17,659
say and they and there was two that said

1594
01:22:21,849 --> 01:22:20,059
they were mantas human hybrids and I I

1595
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:21,859
said okay this is this is gonna be good

1596
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:23,449
because I've had mine now I've had this

1597
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:25,010
mantis experience who I talk to about

1598
01:22:29,379 --> 01:22:27,050
this the only person I knew that knew

1599
01:22:31,379 --> 01:22:29,389
anything about mantis was Linda Bodum

1600
01:22:34,419 --> 01:22:31,389
how because she had interviewed these

1601
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:34,429
different people about it so I went and

1602
01:22:38,290 --> 01:22:36,530
read about them a little bit but I

1603
01:22:39,669 --> 01:22:38,300
didn't have much knowledge or know

1604
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:39,679
anybody who had knowledge about them

1605
01:22:47,750 --> 01:22:42,050
except for these two

1606
01:22:50,420 --> 01:22:47,760
Jaclyn Smith and Robert Fulton who were

1607
01:22:52,970 --> 01:22:50,430
there at the Commission I and I read

1608
01:22:54,470 --> 01:22:52,980
October I said hey guys can can we do an

1609
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:54,480
energy for my show every other thing

1610
01:22:59,780 --> 01:22:56,250
going and they said yeah sure so we

1611
01:23:02,300 --> 01:22:59,790
pulled them aside in the morning not

1612
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:02,310
telling them any details I said I think

1613
01:23:05,900 --> 01:23:04,110
I may have met had Samantha's

1614
01:23:08,060 --> 01:23:05,910
experiences but I'm not quite sure I

1615
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:08,070
just want to know more so not fully

1616
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:11,370
revealing the Downloads that I had I

1617
01:23:15,950 --> 01:23:14,370
sort of started the interview and it's a

1618
01:23:19,490 --> 01:23:15,960
funny interview it's part of my season

1619
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:19,500
one and you can see I start the read on

1620
01:23:23,870 --> 01:23:21,330
well I had this experience and they said

1621
01:23:27,380 --> 01:23:23,880
this and my mind was blown at how

1622
01:23:31,610 --> 01:23:27,390
accurately they described the beams and

1623
01:23:36,590 --> 01:23:31,620
also how how actually describe them in

1624
01:23:38,750 --> 01:23:36,600
in accordance to my to my experience and

1625
01:23:39,650 --> 01:23:38,760
then also just some of the messages that

1626
01:23:42,950 --> 01:23:39,660
they were talking about

1627
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:42,960
we're very almost the same as the stuff

1628
01:23:46,100 --> 01:23:44,490
that I was downloaded so that again

1629
01:23:48,470 --> 01:23:46,110
another confirmation that if you're like

1630
01:23:49,940 --> 01:23:48,480
okay I don't remember reading this

1631
01:23:53,210 --> 01:23:49,950
information out there or hearing and

1632
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:53,220
even though I'm investigating it exactly

1633
01:23:56,060 --> 01:23:54,570
the way they're printing it so there

1634
01:23:58,100 --> 01:23:56,070
must be something to this whole thing

1635
01:24:01,460 --> 01:23:58,110
maybe they really aren't mentis human

1636
01:24:06,770 --> 01:24:01,470
hybrids at this point now I do believe

1637
01:24:08,530 --> 01:24:06,780
that they have been knowing about all

1638
01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:08,540
the hybrid agendas and everything else

1639
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:10,800
maybe we're not the sense that we

1640
01:24:16,460 --> 01:24:14,970
understand genetically altered in the in

1641
01:24:19,930 --> 01:24:16,470
this whole sense that we understand that

1642
01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:19,940
but I do believe they both been heavily

1643
01:24:26,570 --> 01:24:23,760
influenced and perhaps altered somewhat

1644
01:24:30,020 --> 01:24:26,580
genetically to carry that mantis

1645
01:24:34,580 --> 01:24:30,030
archetype so they become become a better

1646
01:24:39,140 --> 01:24:34,590
condiment a better transfer of that

1647
01:24:40,010 --> 01:24:39,150
mentis energy and and then later in a

1648
01:24:41,750 --> 01:24:40,020
couple of weeks

1649
01:24:43,970 --> 01:24:41,760
Elizabeth April who I interviewed she

1650
01:24:46,490 --> 01:24:43,980
has a mantis beam that she connects with

1651
01:24:49,010 --> 01:24:46,500
and that's going to be coming out on my

1652
01:24:51,020 --> 01:24:49,020
season two where I go even more in depth

1653
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:51,030
in the Mantis thing because I've had

1654
01:24:55,750 --> 01:24:53,690
more visitations since then

1655
01:24:58,209 --> 01:24:55,760
more subtle way more in like dreams and

1656
01:25:02,080 --> 01:24:58,219
just meditations not like that full-on

1657
01:25:05,700 --> 01:25:02,090
experience that I had and we can

1658
01:25:13,090 --> 01:25:05,710
continue this after the break but the

1659
01:25:16,300 --> 01:25:13,100
consistencies between who is an extra

1660
01:25:20,110 --> 01:25:16,310
dimensional and how they are connecting

1661
01:25:23,020 --> 01:25:20,120
in this channel session what are the

1662
01:25:26,860 --> 01:25:23,030
consistencies that you see is this a

1663
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:26,870
pure physics question you know is it

1664
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:29,690
entanglement across the universe is it

1665
01:25:33,459 --> 01:25:31,370
something more direct than that I know

1666
01:25:35,740 --> 01:25:33,469
that Darrell ANCA says that Bashar is

1667
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:35,750
you know on a ship you know right

1668
01:25:41,260 --> 01:25:38,810
outside of Earth's you know orbit you

1669
01:25:44,770 --> 01:25:41,270
know it's right here that's more direct

1670
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:44,780
but everything else what what's the data

1671
01:25:49,780 --> 01:25:48,770
that you've collected on this do we have

1672
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:49,790
time for the breaks

1673
01:25:58,979 --> 01:25:53,170
yeah we've got five minutes okay okay so

1674
01:26:03,010 --> 01:25:58,989
I think definitely there is just like so

1675
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:03,020
Jacqueline and Robert are able to carry

1676
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:06,770
that Memphis energy brighter then let's

1677
01:26:11,140 --> 01:26:08,690
say someone who doesn't have that that

1678
01:26:12,580 --> 01:26:11,150
DNA upgrade like Darrell say to its

1679
01:26:15,250 --> 01:26:12,590
future version of himself

1680
01:26:18,459 --> 01:26:15,260
I think the genetics definitely play a

1681
01:26:21,430 --> 01:26:18,469
role in how we connect to these other

1682
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:21,440
versions of ourselves essentially that's

1683
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:26,449
what these channelers I would say 99% of

1684
01:26:32,590 --> 01:26:29,570
them are actually connecting 99 at 19

1685
01:26:34,959 --> 01:26:32,600
gives some argued internet for 90% of

1686
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:34,969
them are actually connecting to other

1687
01:26:39,430 --> 01:26:36,770
versions of themselves and ultimately

1688
01:26:41,410 --> 01:26:39,440
when you know you understand that always

1689
01:26:43,150 --> 01:26:41,420
one everything is we're all started

1690
01:26:46,090 --> 01:26:43,160
after all connected to the same thing so

1691
01:26:49,689 --> 01:26:46,100
we're all brothers and sisters to some

1692
01:26:51,250 --> 01:26:49,699
former fashion but going down the you

1693
01:26:54,250 --> 01:26:51,260
know the Big Bang and the genetic lines

1694
01:26:57,209 --> 01:26:54,260
and all the different energies that have

1695
01:27:00,180 --> 01:26:57,219
split off and done everything else they

1696
01:27:03,220 --> 01:27:00,190
there's definitely more of a connection

1697
01:27:05,140 --> 01:27:03,230
with you know like Darrell and his

1698
01:27:06,850 --> 01:27:05,150
counterpart Bashar and you know

1699
01:27:12,010 --> 01:27:06,860
Jacqueline and to these

1700
01:27:14,169 --> 01:27:12,020
beans that have sections of their DNA

1701
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:14,179
and s perhaps maybe we're carrying that

1702
01:27:19,689 --> 01:27:17,090
DNA physically or an archetype a

1703
01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:19,699
specific archetype that we resonate with

1704
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:24,110
you know for example I'm very very much

1705
01:27:28,780 --> 01:27:25,850
resonate with the hero archetype right

1706
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:28,790
so and in my many of the roles I play as

1707
01:27:35,050 --> 01:27:32,210
an actor you know I'm the guy that goes

1708
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:35,060
and beats up the bad guy or you know

1709
01:27:39,399 --> 01:27:37,010
saves the day or whatever that's sort of

1710
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:39,409
the typical action role that I thought

1711
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:42,170
I'd play and then yet I'm living out

1712
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:45,650
that role somewhat in real life you know

1713
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:48,050
I'm investigating I'm trying to find the

1714
01:27:51,250 --> 01:27:49,610
truth and you know trying to spread the

1715
01:27:53,500 --> 01:27:51,260
information to the people you know in a

1716
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:53,510
sense it's kind of a hero archetype I'm

1717
01:27:58,840 --> 01:27:55,850
not beaten up for having up demons with

1718
01:28:03,250 --> 01:27:58,850
my sword but real life but in a way you

1719
01:28:05,590 --> 01:28:03,260
know trying to expose the truth and tell

1720
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:05,600
people to you know get along and or help

1721
01:28:12,220 --> 01:28:08,090
tell people share that we're all one

1722
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:12,230
family here so that those archetypes the

1723
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:17,810
DNA we're all interconnected and it's

1724
01:28:21,910 --> 01:28:20,330
easier to connect to those versions of

1725
01:28:24,459 --> 01:28:21,920
ourselves that are sort of within the

1726
01:28:26,470 --> 01:28:24,469
same frequency and same resonance and

1727
01:28:29,770 --> 01:28:26,480
then it just goes further from there but

1728
01:28:32,770 --> 01:28:29,780
you know we're not locked into being you

1729
01:28:34,180 --> 01:28:32,780
know Dale is not the only one that can

1730
01:28:38,050 --> 01:28:34,190
channel Bashar Bashar has come through

1731
01:28:40,090 --> 01:28:38,060
other people so or I think he says he's

1732
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:40,100
the only one right now but in the past

1733
01:28:46,149 --> 01:28:42,530
we stuff and I've interviewed people who

1734
01:28:48,970 --> 01:28:46,159
who have channeled Bashar in the past so

1735
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:48,980
it's not like it's fixed but definitely

1736
01:28:55,209 --> 01:28:51,110
there's a resonance that it makes it

1737
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:55,219
easier for us to all humans who are

1738
01:29:00,939 --> 01:28:57,650
channelers in their own right to connect

1739
01:29:02,709 --> 01:29:00,949
to these energies let's take our break

1740
01:29:04,990 --> 01:29:02,719
right here Ruben stay right there this

1741
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:05,000
is fade to black our guest tonight Ruben

1742
01:29:10,350 --> 01:29:07,489
Langdon we're talking about a su TV

1743
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series it is called interviews with Edie

1744
01:29:13,830 --> 01:29:12,190
extra dimension

1745
01:29:16,260 --> 01:29:13,840
we've got all the links up over a two

1746
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:16,270
meter radio calm stay with us we'll be

1747
01:29:18,900 --> 01:29:18,400
right back North Reuben after this short

1748
01:29:24,510 --> 01:29:18,910
break

1749
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:34,380
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with Jenny church on the GameChanger

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network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

1825
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listening to me Church this is

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[Music]

1828
01:34:01,240 --> 01:33:59,860
welcome back fade to black I am the host

1829
01:34:04,030 --> 01:34:01,250
of a church I guess tonight Reuben

1830
01:34:09,010 --> 01:34:04,040
Langdon he's an actor screenwriter

1831
01:34:13,630 --> 01:34:09,020
director editor stunt coordinator stunt

1832
01:34:18,250 --> 01:34:13,640
person researchers I could go on and on

1833
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:18,260
I know you're laughing but yeah yeah

1834
01:34:23,350 --> 01:34:21,770
it's a it's it's so much fun to discuss

1835
01:34:26,620 --> 01:34:23,360
these things with you because of your

1836
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background and knowing that you've got a

1837
01:34:30,910 --> 01:34:28,730
kind of you've got to wear two hats

1838
01:34:35,170 --> 01:34:30,920
you've got a serious side of Hollywood

1839
01:34:37,300 --> 01:34:35,180
you know where you've you know that's

1840
01:34:39,340 --> 01:34:37,310
where you're employed and then this

1841
01:34:42,910 --> 01:34:39,350
other side nuts say that it's not

1842
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:42,920
serious but you're going into zones now

1843
01:34:51,310 --> 01:34:47,810
that aren't necessarily based in a 2d or

1844
01:34:54,370 --> 01:34:51,320
3d reality of Earth with your feet on

1845
01:34:57,670 --> 01:34:54,380
the ground you have to go right right

1846
01:34:59,650 --> 01:34:57,680
right yes right absolutely the

1847
01:35:02,830 --> 01:34:59,660
mainstream type conversation it

1848
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:02,840
certainly isn't and when you are doing

1849
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:08,570
these interviews Ruben have you been in

1850
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:12,770
a situation where you were thinking to

1851
01:35:18,490 --> 01:35:15,650
yourself okay you know what this ain't

1852
01:35:23,340 --> 01:35:18,500
real I'm gonna continue the interview

1853
01:35:27,250 --> 01:35:23,350
but I'm never going to use this material

1854
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:27,260
there actually has been some a few I'd

1855
01:35:32,980 --> 01:35:29,210
say I think just two or three interviews

1856
01:35:35,980 --> 01:35:32,990
that I didn't follow through with that

1857
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:35,990
wasn't nice not because I didn't think

1858
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:39,890
the material was real the material I

1859
01:35:43,450 --> 01:35:41,810
didn't enough homework beforehand sort

1860
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:43,460
of getting drawn into the material to

1861
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:47,810
know that the material was legit but I I

1862
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:55,610
sort of used my my my BS meter and and I

1863
01:36:00,160 --> 01:35:57,530
say that not in the sense that that

1864
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:00,170
these people are are right or wrong or

1865
01:36:06,460 --> 01:36:02,570
the information coming through is not

1866
01:36:09,879 --> 01:36:06,470
right but for me a big part of it is

1867
01:36:13,659 --> 01:36:09,889
integrity and I

1868
01:36:15,580 --> 01:36:13,669
some of these people the actual people

1869
01:36:19,060 --> 01:36:15,590
if they're not acting out of integrity

1870
01:36:23,290 --> 01:36:19,070
if they're not presenting if they're

1871
01:36:25,509 --> 01:36:23,300
sort of you know have some some issues

1872
01:36:26,949 --> 01:36:25,519
themselves what happens is that

1873
01:36:29,250 --> 01:36:26,959
definitely comes through the channels

1874
01:36:33,909 --> 01:36:29,260
the channel material in a subtle way

1875
01:36:38,709 --> 01:36:33,919
because you have to be a clear channel

1876
01:36:40,569 --> 01:36:38,719
you have to be tune in yourself to to

1877
01:36:42,129 --> 01:36:40,579
tune in to these higher frequencies so

1878
01:36:44,949 --> 01:36:42,139
if you're off if you're not doing the

1879
01:36:48,909 --> 01:36:44,959
work and if you're not of integrity or

1880
01:36:50,919 --> 01:36:48,919
have alternate motives or whatever to

1881
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:50,929
become famous or whatever it is and

1882
01:36:56,350 --> 01:36:54,530
that's and that's fine famous but to do

1883
01:36:58,330 --> 01:36:56,360
it in a malicious way or just to take

1884
01:37:00,310 --> 01:36:58,340
money or whatever it is that's going to

1885
01:37:02,949 --> 01:37:00,320
come through the channeling and you're

1886
01:37:06,939 --> 01:37:02,959
going to connect to an entity or an

1887
01:37:09,939 --> 01:37:06,949
energy and we think things as being just

1888
01:37:13,449 --> 01:37:09,949
one to one entity no but there are there

1889
01:37:16,270 --> 01:37:13,459
you know big scales where you can

1890
01:37:18,189 --> 01:37:16,280
connect to an entity but this version of

1891
01:37:21,129 --> 01:37:18,199
that entity you know a not-so-nice

1892
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:21,139
version a version that maybe you want to

1893
01:37:27,009 --> 01:37:23,449
may want to take advantage of people or

1894
01:37:29,409 --> 01:37:27,019
put people down so they can create a

1895
01:37:31,870 --> 01:37:29,419
hierarchy so they can you know suck

1896
01:37:35,109 --> 01:37:31,880
their energy or suck their their money

1897
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:35,119
that's actually which has happened in

1898
01:37:39,489 --> 01:37:37,090
the past with some some of these bigger

1899
01:37:44,319 --> 01:37:39,499
more well-known channels I won't name

1900
01:37:46,839 --> 01:37:44,329
names but I've had on a small scale just

1901
01:37:49,049 --> 01:37:46,849
a few people that I've over the years

1902
01:37:51,489 --> 01:37:49,059
doing these interviews where I've seen

1903
01:37:53,589 --> 01:37:51,499
maybe not the best integrity so I

1904
01:37:54,609 --> 01:37:53,599
decided not to release it not because I

1905
01:37:56,169 --> 01:37:54,619
didn't think the information wasn't

1906
01:37:57,790 --> 01:37:56,179
right but because I just didn't want to

1907
01:37:59,709 --> 01:37:57,800
send people that direction to those

1908
01:38:03,250 --> 01:37:59,719
people I didn't want customers to go

1909
01:38:05,739 --> 01:38:03,260
there and with your travels through

1910
01:38:08,169 --> 01:38:05,749
Hollywood does that give you a scale of

1911
01:38:16,449 --> 01:38:08,179
discernment that most of us can't

1912
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:16,459
measure you know being young in a

1913
01:38:20,639 --> 01:38:18,050
stuntman and you're willing to sort of

1914
01:38:23,230 --> 01:38:20,649
do whatever and you don't really see

1915
01:38:25,150 --> 01:38:23,240
actually my good I don't know if you

1916
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:25,160
mentioned that the documentary out of

1917
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:28,970
shadows my good buddy Brad Martin helped

1918
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:31,010
produce and direct that with Liz croakin

1919
01:38:37,480 --> 01:38:33,530
and Mike Smith

1920
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:37,490
it had like within four days it had ten

1921
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:40,730
million views we're gonna have those

1922
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:43,010
guys on the show I've now seen the

1923
01:38:48,250 --> 01:38:47,330
documentary like four times great holy

1924
01:38:56,130 --> 01:38:48,260
crap

1925
01:39:00,070 --> 01:38:58,630
really quick I wanted to ask you did you

1926
01:39:02,740 --> 01:39:00,080
guys ever work together on different

1927
01:39:05,410 --> 01:39:02,750
films yes

1928
01:39:07,690 --> 01:39:05,420
well Brad and I I was with Mike a couple

1929
01:39:10,030 --> 01:39:07,700
of times he hired me for jobs Brad and I

1930
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:10,040
we've been good friends we've worked on

1931
01:39:15,010 --> 01:39:12,170
the same project but not really at the

1932
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:15,020
same time so he brought me in he

1933
01:39:19,480 --> 01:39:17,690
actually helped me get on Charlie's

1934
01:39:20,620 --> 01:39:19,490
Angels back in the day I was doubling

1935
01:39:22,810 --> 01:39:20,630
the The Thin Man

1936
01:39:26,770 --> 01:39:22,820
he was the original double and then he

1937
01:39:28,030 --> 01:39:26,780
had to go on another project or

1938
01:39:31,480 --> 01:39:28,040
something and couldn't make it so he

1939
01:39:35,670 --> 01:39:31,490
Brad introduced me and I got got to work

1940
01:39:37,900 --> 01:39:35,680
with Charlie's Angels this one's cool

1941
01:39:39,790 --> 01:39:37,910
thanks to Brad but at that time we

1942
01:39:41,740 --> 01:39:39,800
weren't really into this stuff and then

1943
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:41,750
it started to come out and then Brad

1944
01:39:45,190 --> 01:39:43,010
reached out to me he goes hey rue but

1945
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:45,200
I've been watching your post and I think

1946
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:48,530
we need to talk and so we've had some

1947
01:39:53,410 --> 01:39:50,930
really good good conversations over the

1948
01:39:56,650 --> 01:39:53,420
years about this about what's going on

1949
01:39:59,650 --> 01:39:56,660
in the material and and he's more in it

1950
01:40:03,430 --> 01:39:59,660
for the you know he appreciates my et

1951
01:40:05,860 --> 01:40:03,440
stuff and he likes to would like to have

1952
01:40:07,690 --> 01:40:05,870
dinner and chat about it but we really

1953
01:40:10,030 --> 01:40:07,700
get riled up just over the world affairs

1954
01:40:13,300 --> 01:40:10,040
and the craziness that's going on and

1955
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:13,310
with the economy and you know all of it

1956
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:17,890
now when we when we look at something

1957
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:20,090
historically like you know like Jane

1958
01:40:27,780 --> 01:40:24,290
Roberts for instance where you can see

1959
01:40:30,700 --> 01:40:27,790
and if and I'm sure you have but if

1960
01:40:34,210 --> 01:40:30,710
anybody in the audience has a chance to

1961
01:40:36,010 --> 01:40:34,220
go back and watch it's out there you can

1962
01:40:39,010 --> 01:40:36,020
see interviews with Jane rabe

1963
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:39,020
it's when he's not channelling and then

1964
01:40:47,170 --> 01:40:42,650
you can see Jane channelling and the

1965
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:47,180
difference of her personality right this

1966
01:40:54,210 --> 01:40:50,690
thing that happens immediately and when

1967
01:40:58,420 --> 01:40:54,220
you hear her speak you know normal Jane

1968
01:41:01,630 --> 01:40:58,430
she's got a verbage and a vocabulary in

1969
01:41:03,970 --> 01:41:01,640
a way of speaking that is heard that's

1970
01:41:08,140 --> 01:41:03,980
Jane that's Jane Roberts and then when

1971
01:41:12,570 --> 01:41:08,150
she goes into the Seth stuff

1972
01:41:13,750 --> 01:41:12,580
her entire not only demeanor but it's a

1973
01:41:17,230 --> 01:41:13,760
vocabulary

1974
01:41:19,990 --> 01:41:17,240
it's her diction completely changes and

1975
01:41:21,940 --> 01:41:20,000
comes from somewhere else is that

1976
01:41:25,020 --> 01:41:21,950
something that you look for when

1977
01:41:27,580 --> 01:41:25,030
somebody is is channeling right there

1978
01:41:29,110 --> 01:41:27,590
not so much and actually that doesn't

1979
01:41:31,480 --> 01:41:29,120
happen as much these days there are a

1980
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:31,490
few people who still do that that would

1981
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:36,010
be that the deep trance channeling and

1982
01:41:42,670 --> 01:41:39,410
you know I know Darryl and and also rob

1983
01:41:45,370 --> 01:41:42,680
golfi or they go what it is is they go

1984
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:45,380
into a deep state where they kind of

1985
01:41:49,090 --> 01:41:46,850
black out they're not aware of what's

1986
01:41:50,950 --> 01:41:49,100
happening in this world that's right and

1987
01:41:53,740 --> 01:41:50,960
then the being comes through and does

1988
01:41:56,050 --> 01:41:53,750
its thing it's still you it's still they

1989
01:41:57,760 --> 01:41:56,060
are still conduits they're still tuned

1990
01:42:00,550 --> 01:41:57,770
in have to be tuned in to a certain

1991
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:00,560
extent but they kind of get out of the

1992
01:42:04,180 --> 01:42:02,090
way so the information can come through

1993
01:42:08,230 --> 01:42:04,190
clear and that's when you see these

1994
01:42:11,440 --> 01:42:08,240
bigger steps and characters Rob channels

1995
01:42:15,070 --> 01:42:11,450
it's probably my favorite episode season

1996
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:15,080
one it's an interview with Trent Boyett

1997
01:42:20,950 --> 01:42:19,010
me a benevolent reptilian and the

1998
01:42:24,700 --> 01:42:20,960
character of CREB and the character Rob

1999
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:24,710
are so vastly different but it's such a

2000
01:42:28,300 --> 01:42:26,690
joy to watch and you know you're sitting

2001
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:28,310
there in front of you there's mannerisms

2002
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:29,690
and everything changes and you're just

2003
01:42:35,770 --> 01:42:31,730
like oh this is crazy but it's awesome

2004
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:35,780
the stuff with me saner is so so so much

2005
01:42:43,030 --> 01:42:39,890
truth it's so real but most modern-day

2006
01:42:44,500 --> 01:42:43,040
channelers now and and this is the way

2007
01:42:46,970 --> 01:42:44,510
it's been explained to me through the

2008
01:42:51,550 --> 01:42:46,980
channelers into the channel means

2009
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:51,560
is that because the Earth's frequency is

2010
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:54,570
rising so to say that may not be the

2011
01:42:58,520 --> 01:42:55,890
right terminology but that's what we're

2012
01:43:01,100 --> 01:42:58,530
using right now it's expanding it's

2013
01:43:05,170 --> 01:43:01,110
growing we're becoming lighter less

2014
01:43:09,140 --> 01:43:05,180
dense in our reality of how how things

2015
01:43:12,740 --> 01:43:09,150
work throughout this dense soup it's

2016
01:43:15,770 --> 01:43:12,750
kind of like we're currently we're in

2017
01:43:17,900 --> 01:43:15,780
more of like a miso soup where you know

2018
01:43:20,510 --> 01:43:17,910
maybe 50 20 years ago we were in a

2019
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:20,520
thicker corn soup corn porridge or

2020
01:43:28,130 --> 01:43:23,850
something to navigate it so the other

2021
01:43:30,170 --> 01:43:28,140
entities had a harder time entering so

2022
01:43:33,410 --> 01:43:30,180
they literally needed whatever subject

2023
01:43:36,170 --> 01:43:33,420
that was going to trance and bring in

2024
01:43:37,430 --> 01:43:36,180
these entities they needed them to might

2025
01:43:39,500 --> 01:43:37,440
get out of the way completely and just

2026
01:43:41,870 --> 01:43:39,510
okay you go to sleep you're out and then

2027
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:41,880
then the entity can come in now it's

2028
01:43:47,510 --> 01:43:44,880
because of the the lighter density these

2029
01:43:49,940 --> 01:43:47,520
entities can sort of ease their way in

2030
01:43:54,410 --> 01:43:49,950
and and the other person can still be

2031
01:43:57,680 --> 01:43:54,420
present in an aware but but at the same

2032
01:44:02,510 --> 01:43:57,690
time kind of just take a back seat and I

2033
01:44:04,820 --> 01:44:02,520
felt what that felt like in my one of my

2034
01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:04,830
later episodes in season one I had

2035
01:44:10,430 --> 01:44:08,880
Barbara Lam hypnotized me in a sense I

2036
01:44:12,170 --> 01:44:10,440
asked her I said hey Barbara

2037
01:44:13,850 --> 01:44:12,180
I want a channel do you think we're

2038
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:13,860
gonna happen and she was like well I've

2039
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:16,890
never better before but let's see so I

2040
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:18,810
asked her to hypnotize me so I could

2041
01:44:21,130 --> 01:44:20,370
channel something so I could feel what

2042
01:44:23,330 --> 01:44:21,140
that's like

2043
01:44:26,270 --> 01:44:23,340
and sure enough it took a little while

2044
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:26,280
but we got there and I described it and

2045
01:44:30,350 --> 01:44:28,530
this is how many others describe it it's

2046
01:44:33,020 --> 01:44:30,360
totally like you're in the back seat of

2047
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:33,030
a car it's it's like when you're when

2048
01:44:35,930 --> 01:44:34,290
you're having that conversation with

2049
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:35,940
that person and you're in the front seat

2050
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:37,650
it's right there you can hear everything

2051
01:44:43,250 --> 01:44:41,370
they say very clear but in the back seat

2052
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:43,260
you're kinda your focus is a little

2053
01:44:47,060 --> 01:44:44,880
faded now because you might be looking

2054
01:44:48,590 --> 01:44:47,070
out the window in the back you can hear

2055
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:48,600
the conversation that's happening up

2056
01:44:52,970 --> 01:44:50,880
front but it's not your conversation

2057
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:52,980
you're just you're just kind of going

2058
01:44:56,420 --> 01:44:54,090
along for the ride and you're listening

2059
01:45:00,050 --> 01:44:56,430
that's what it felt like when I was

2060
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:00,060
channeling it wasn't even the specific

2061
01:45:02,330 --> 01:45:00,690
begin

2062
01:45:04,070 --> 01:45:02,340
see I don't know what it was but it from

2063
01:45:08,270 --> 01:45:04,080
energy was coming through it's pretty

2064
01:45:09,620 --> 01:45:08,280
well and that's kind of how the more if

2065
01:45:11,300 --> 01:45:09,630
the modern day channel or sort of

2066
01:45:12,710 --> 01:45:11,310
describe it it's like they get out of

2067
01:45:14,330 --> 01:45:12,720
the way they're still there so we can

2068
01:45:16,910 --> 01:45:14,340
snap out at any time so it's not like

2069
01:45:19,940 --> 01:45:16,920
any entity is taking over your body so

2070
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:19,950
to say they're just kind of getting out

2071
01:45:25,220 --> 01:45:22,170
of the way so the information can can

2072
01:45:29,710 --> 01:45:25,230
come forward and in flow clearly what

2073
01:45:34,180 --> 01:45:29,720
what is interesting with that point is

2074
01:45:40,060 --> 01:45:34,190
for the last two years I've been able to

2075
01:45:42,710 --> 01:45:40,070
introduce Darryl and Bashar at

2076
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:42,720
conferences oh that's right that's right

2077
01:45:52,700 --> 01:45:48,930
were you there okay you saw the playback

2078
01:45:54,230 --> 01:45:52,710
okay so check this out so I've been able

2079
01:45:57,920 --> 01:45:54,240
to go and have a conversation with

2080
01:46:00,590 --> 01:45:57,930
Bashar right now remember this that

2081
01:46:03,980 --> 01:46:00,600
before each one of those events Darryl

2082
01:46:05,900 --> 01:46:03,990
and I are backstage talking and get

2083
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:05,910
anything set up and everything is normal

2084
01:46:14,630 --> 01:46:12,930
I'm speaking to Darryl you know I

2085
01:46:17,150 --> 01:46:14,640
introduced me comes out on stage and I

2086
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:17,160
go out no ask the first couple of

2087
01:46:23,480 --> 01:46:19,050
questions and and have a conversation

2088
01:46:25,930 --> 01:46:23,490
with them after both events and I did it

2089
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:25,940
to him again this year okay so

2090
01:46:31,100 --> 01:46:28,650
afterwards couple hours later Darryl and

2091
01:46:33,460 --> 01:46:31,110
I are alone and I go up to Darryl I go

2092
01:46:35,630 --> 01:46:33,470
wow that was a pretty interesting

2093
01:46:41,060 --> 01:46:35,640
conversation with Darryl and he goes how

2094
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:41,070
was it and I go what do you mean and he

2095
01:46:47,180 --> 01:46:44,010
goes no Jimmy what do you mean I'm like

2096
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:47,190
what do you mean dude I don't remember

2097
01:46:53,750 --> 01:46:49,530
anything your conversation was with

2098
01:46:56,930 --> 01:46:53,760
Bashar it wasn't with me and he's I mean

2099
01:47:02,000 --> 01:46:56,940
he is Ruben he's looking at me straight

2100
01:47:03,830 --> 01:47:02,010
in my eyeballs when he says this I

2101
01:47:05,660 --> 01:47:03,840
wanted to have a conversation with

2102
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:05,670
Darryl about the conversation with this

2103
01:47:12,590 --> 01:47:08,130
yarn how interesting and but I couldn't

2104
01:47:13,580 --> 01:47:12,600
because Darryl didn't have any memory

2105
01:47:16,220 --> 01:47:13,590
because

2106
01:47:17,839 --> 01:47:16,230
it wasn't his conversation now for

2107
01:47:20,510 --> 01:47:17,849
everybody out there that's listening

2108
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:20,520
right now that may be tough for you to

2109
01:47:28,250 --> 01:47:23,130
wrap your head around but that's exactly

2110
01:47:31,129 --> 01:47:28,260
what Reuben is saying here and it it was

2111
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:31,139
so interesting for me and also you know

2112
01:47:37,129 --> 01:47:33,330
I got to be quite honest Reuben I was

2113
01:47:39,260 --> 01:47:37,139
taken aback because I wanted to talk to

2114
01:47:41,419 --> 01:47:39,270
Darrell about the conversation and about

2115
01:47:43,609 --> 01:47:41,429
how important it was an impactful and

2116
01:47:45,410 --> 01:47:43,619
the audience that was there Darrell

2117
01:47:46,939 --> 01:47:45,420
didn't have any idea what I was talking

2118
01:47:56,149 --> 01:47:46,949
about and you know what

2119
01:47:59,810 --> 01:47:56,159
he laughed yeah it was like wow that is

2120
01:48:05,149 --> 01:47:59,820
it is just so interesting to me and and

2121
01:48:06,740 --> 01:48:05,159
the how do you think the connection is

2122
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:06,750
actually made I know you've mentioned

2123
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:09,210
frequency you know it's like dialing in

2124
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:11,730
on a radio right and and I get that but

2125
01:48:15,649 --> 01:48:13,530
but but how do you think that connection

2126
01:48:17,990 --> 01:48:15,659
is made and what do you think the

2127
01:48:21,109 --> 01:48:18,000
distance is you know what I mean are we

2128
01:48:23,839 --> 01:48:21,119
are we going to another galaxy another

2129
01:48:27,140 --> 01:48:23,849
star system is it something that is just

2130
01:48:28,790 --> 01:48:27,150
in the ether of the universe and it just

2131
01:48:32,180 --> 01:48:28,800
happens to be right here next to you and

2132
01:48:34,220 --> 01:48:32,190
I right now I mean you've heard the term

2133
01:48:38,270 --> 01:48:34,230
time in is illusion right that's that

2134
01:48:42,169 --> 01:48:38,280
sort of we hear that all the time and it

2135
01:48:46,339 --> 01:48:42,179
literally is so in outside of our

2136
01:48:49,550 --> 01:48:46,349
perception of what reality is let's say

2137
01:48:52,339 --> 01:48:49,560
behind the veil so to say things aren't

2138
01:48:56,089 --> 01:48:52,349
localized aren't limited through space

2139
01:48:58,339 --> 01:48:56,099
time and gravity so we're not we don't

2140
01:49:00,410 --> 01:48:58,349
have to there is not the things don't

2141
01:49:02,209 --> 01:49:00,420
work in a higher dimensional realm

2142
01:49:05,930 --> 01:49:02,219
you know fifth dimension and even Neil

2143
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:05,940
deGrasse Tyson and and Michio Kaku

2144
01:49:11,149 --> 01:49:08,610
talked about this things don't run in a

2145
01:49:13,070 --> 01:49:11,159
linear sense so you can literally go

2146
01:49:16,339 --> 01:49:13,080
from you know think of about your your

2147
01:49:17,780 --> 01:49:16,349
life being born as a baby to the end and

2148
01:49:20,780 --> 01:49:17,790
that we think of that as a linear

2149
01:49:22,459 --> 01:49:20,790
progression but in a higher dimensional

2150
01:49:25,430 --> 01:49:22,469
realm you could literally go to any

2151
01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:25,440
point of your life as a baby as you can

2152
01:49:30,229 --> 01:49:27,360
experience that and experience

2153
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:30,239
as a you know a junior high school

2154
01:49:36,950 --> 01:49:34,530
student or an old man and that's how

2155
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:36,960
these higher dimensional beings can can

2156
01:49:43,850 --> 01:49:41,250
perceive reality because they're a tad

2157
01:49:46,879 --> 01:49:43,860
different they're beyond this limited

2158
01:49:51,350 --> 01:49:46,889
version of the nonlinear sense of

2159
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:51,360
reality and not to say that our version

2160
01:49:58,189 --> 01:49:54,810
of it isn't real it is but it is and

2161
01:50:00,530 --> 01:49:58,199
there's the the non limited version and

2162
01:50:02,660 --> 01:50:00,540
we're moving as we're moving our

2163
01:50:04,490 --> 01:50:02,670
collective consciousness and you know

2164
01:50:06,590 --> 01:50:04,500
earth is moving through space and the

2165
01:50:08,870 --> 01:50:06,600
Sun is traveling around the galaxies and

2166
01:50:11,330 --> 01:50:08,880
there's all this action happening on the

2167
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:11,340
linear sense somewhat tensely we're

2168
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:13,290
we're evolving into a higher frequency

2169
01:50:21,490 --> 01:50:15,449
vibration like I was saying 10 Tesla

2170
01:50:26,330 --> 01:50:21,500
says and we're able to access these

2171
01:50:30,370 --> 01:50:26,340
states of being of these higher

2172
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:30,380
dimensional States much more easily and

2173
01:50:35,090 --> 01:50:33,210
that's when we're actually starting to

2174
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:35,100
perceive and you have more people you

2175
01:50:38,419 --> 01:50:36,570
know doing yoga and going to meditation

2176
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:38,429
and then it's these altered states of

2177
01:50:44,090 --> 01:50:41,250
consciousness like channeling that we're

2178
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:44,100
able to actually experience and see the

2179
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:47,250
world from a nonlinear perspective so

2180
01:50:51,890 --> 01:50:49,290
where are they at it could be anywhere

2181
01:50:53,629 --> 01:50:51,900
in a linear sense they point like I said

2182
01:50:56,930 --> 01:50:53,639
they point to Pleiades or the point -

2183
01:51:01,129 --> 01:50:56,940
you know Sirius or at first to let us

2184
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:01,139
get a sort of a frequency signature of

2185
01:51:05,419 --> 01:51:03,570
the vibration of what it is so when we

2186
01:51:07,879 --> 01:51:05,429
bring that into our heart and we can

2187
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:07,889
feel that we can vibrate at that

2188
01:51:12,919 --> 01:51:11,250
frequency then space and time doesn't

2189
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:12,929
matter we're right there we're

2190
01:51:18,470 --> 01:51:15,090
experiencing what it's like to be an

2191
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:18,480
actor Ian or connect to Australian

2192
01:51:24,500 --> 01:51:22,050
signals because they also are non-local

2193
01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:24,510
with space times and we can connect with

2194
01:51:28,970 --> 01:51:27,090
different versions of time of them we

2195
01:51:30,229 --> 01:51:28,980
can connect to an earlier version of

2196
01:51:31,220 --> 01:51:30,239
their race where they still had

2197
01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:31,230
physicalized

2198
01:51:38,620 --> 01:51:33,570
experiences like we're having now but

2199
01:51:41,090 --> 01:51:38,630
much more higher technology and

2200
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:41,100
understanding of what reality is so they

2201
01:51:45,230 --> 01:51:43,650
and traverse their consciousness still

2202
01:51:46,940 --> 01:51:45,240
in the physical form but in a much

2203
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:46,950
broader sense like sort of like Bashar

2204
01:51:51,500 --> 01:51:49,530
Bashar is a physical IDP many of these

2205
01:51:53,990 --> 01:51:51,510
consciousnesses have already evolved

2206
01:51:56,810 --> 01:51:54,000
beyond the physical form and they're

2207
01:51:59,180 --> 01:51:56,820
just in and you can tap into those

2208
01:52:01,880 --> 01:51:59,190
versions of those consciousnesses that

2209
01:52:03,650 --> 01:52:01,890
are already evolved again because time

2210
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:03,660
isn't linear how we see it we can just

2211
01:52:08,660 --> 01:52:06,330
simply tap into oh this is the version

2212
01:52:11,980 --> 01:52:08,670
this is the higher evolved version of

2213
01:52:18,610 --> 01:52:11,990
the specie that this space-time

2214
01:52:20,900 --> 01:52:18,620
signature space signature because

2215
01:52:22,790 --> 01:52:20,910
everybody res everybody I mean everybody

2216
01:52:24,830 --> 01:52:22,800
that's listening to you right now or

2217
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:24,840
that listen to somebody channel like Rob

2218
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:29,370
or or or Daryl Roxanne is is is

2219
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:31,530
fascinating yes

2220
01:52:41,510 --> 01:52:37,050
so the the answer that everybody wants

2221
01:52:44,300 --> 01:52:41,520
to hear is that linear pointing of the

2222
01:52:47,810 --> 01:52:44,310
arrow right where's it coming from

2223
01:52:50,150 --> 01:52:47,820
any any other answer nobody nobody

2224
01:52:52,550 --> 01:52:50,160
nobody even wants to consider they don't

2225
01:52:55,820 --> 01:52:52,560
want to hear it they want some well that

2226
01:52:57,530 --> 01:52:55,830
unitive yeah well that's that's that's

2227
01:53:01,640 --> 01:52:57,540
what we're moving out of we're moving

2228
01:53:04,670 --> 01:53:01,650
out of this definitive fixed ideas

2229
01:53:07,970 --> 01:53:04,680
because while in the universe is

2230
01:53:10,010 --> 01:53:07,980
unlimited in its in its construct and we

2231
01:53:12,650 --> 01:53:10,020
understand that through quantum physics

2232
01:53:14,420 --> 01:53:12,660
the double slit experiment spooky action

2233
01:53:17,690 --> 01:53:14,430
at a distance we're understanding how

2234
01:53:22,870 --> 01:53:17,700
limitless reality is we just have to

2235
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:22,880
open up our perspectives our hearts our

2236
01:53:28,070 --> 01:53:26,370
ideas of what what is reality and the

2237
01:53:32,750 --> 01:53:28,080
more we can do that the more we can

2238
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:32,760
settle into a less limited reality and I

2239
01:53:35,480 --> 01:53:33,930
could and that's exactly what we're

2240
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:35,490
doing we're figuring out that we are

2241
01:53:40,730 --> 01:53:39,210
creating it as we're going along and to

2242
01:53:47,630 --> 01:53:40,740
do that we have to just tell better

2243
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:47,640
stories well the right and there's

2244
01:53:52,460 --> 01:53:49,890
there's another part to this that I find

2245
01:54:00,560 --> 01:53:57,200
that most don't have an understanding of

2246
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:00,570
and it's this when you say the Pleiades

2247
01:54:04,220 --> 01:54:02,010
when you're talking about Orion or

2248
01:54:07,070 --> 01:54:04,230
Orion's belt or the Seven Sisters or or

2249
01:54:08,990 --> 01:54:07,080
Zeta Reticuli the plate when you start

2250
01:54:14,930 --> 01:54:09,000
talking about these concepts of these

2251
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:14,940
star clusters these we look at them from

2252
01:54:20,150 --> 01:54:17,330
the beginning of time in a

2253
01:54:22,250 --> 01:54:20,160
two-dimensional space right we're

2254
01:54:25,340 --> 01:54:22,260
looking up to the stars we're looking up

2255
01:54:28,430 --> 01:54:25,350
to the to the night sky and it's it's

2256
01:54:31,940 --> 01:54:28,440
like a drawing on a sheet of paper the

2257
01:54:35,750 --> 01:54:31,950
the distance between these stars amongst

2258
01:54:40,090 --> 01:54:35,760
themselves in a depth and you know in a

2259
01:54:43,250 --> 01:54:40,100
3-d and 4-d time construct is a

2260
01:54:47,030 --> 01:54:43,260
ginormous amount of space it's not like

2261
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:47,040
the pin on a map you can't define that

2262
01:54:51,260 --> 01:54:48,570
when you're talking about Orion's belt

2263
01:54:55,180 --> 01:54:51,270
or the sevens you're not doing it that

2264
01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:55,190
way and the Pleiades aren't you know

2265
01:55:01,850 --> 01:54:58,320
like North Hollywood Sherman Oaks

2266
01:55:04,100 --> 01:55:01,860
Burbank right and bad eyes where they're

2267
01:55:07,070 --> 01:55:04,110
right next to each other that's not the

2268
01:55:10,070 --> 01:55:07,080
case is it so you can't you can't do a

2269
01:55:15,130 --> 01:55:10,080
linear line to that because it is

2270
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:15,140
separated by you know trillions of miles

2271
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:20,130
right and it's if if you one way I look

2272
01:55:25,490 --> 01:55:22,770
at it and this is why I say that the

2273
01:55:27,650 --> 01:55:25,500
language is really letting us understand

2274
01:55:30,020 --> 01:55:27,660
it better so when we understand that the

2275
01:55:31,670 --> 01:55:30,030
frequencies and what I'm sort of trying

2276
01:55:35,420 --> 01:55:31,680
to do a little bit in the show is sort

2277
01:55:40,790 --> 01:55:35,430
of create a thesaurus of these different

2278
01:55:46,820 --> 01:55:40,800
ET races and and really what I'm doing

2279
01:55:48,620 --> 01:55:46,830
is is just redefining with new language

2280
01:55:50,180 --> 01:55:48,630
what has already existed these

2281
01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:50,190
archetypal energies that have always

2282
01:55:56,630 --> 01:55:53,330
existed in our storytelling and history

2283
01:55:59,270 --> 01:55:56,640
and different ideas for you know in

2284
01:56:02,840 --> 01:55:59,280
different you know from the Bible to to

2285
01:56:05,340 --> 01:56:02,850
the to modern day you know comic books

2286
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:05,350
these archetypal energies exist

2287
01:56:13,620 --> 01:56:08,650
where we look and and we're putting this

2288
01:56:17,670 --> 01:56:13,630
et label on it in order to connect to

2289
01:56:20,430 --> 01:56:17,680
that energy and go even deeper and maybe

2290
01:56:24,420 --> 01:56:20,440
even have a physicalized experience with

2291
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:24,430
these archetypes as opposed to just

2292
01:56:28,830 --> 01:56:27,130
being part of our storytelling and I

2293
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:28,840
think that's what the et story is

2294
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:33,730
ultimately is is really retelling

2295
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:36,490
redefining these archetypes and

2296
01:56:41,070 --> 01:56:37,930
understanding them and connecting with

2297
01:56:42,990 --> 01:56:41,080
them in a new and unique unique way and

2298
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:43,000
experience that we we haven't been able

2299
01:56:50,850 --> 01:56:46,810
to do on this planet for thousands of

2300
01:56:52,530 --> 01:56:50,860
years and ultimately what do you think

2301
01:56:57,000 --> 01:56:52,540
that we should do with this information

2302
01:56:59,820 --> 01:56:57,010
because there is a consistency with with

2303
01:57:01,830 --> 01:56:59,830
what is coming through and I and I hear

2304
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:01,840
that right a I hear a very consistent

2305
01:57:07,890 --> 01:57:03,850
message and then I hear things that

2306
01:57:10,890 --> 01:57:07,900
directly conflict with each other and so

2307
01:57:14,970 --> 01:57:10,900
how do we how do we dilute and connect

2308
01:57:17,190 --> 01:57:14,980
the dots and come to one conclusion well

2309
01:57:21,390 --> 01:57:17,200
you know especially the best I think the

2310
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:21,400
number one the number one thing to do is

2311
01:57:25,620 --> 01:57:24,010
to follow your excitement and we and

2312
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:25,630
each for each of us that's going to be

2313
01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:28,570
unique and different and to do that to

2314
01:57:33,330 --> 01:57:30,730
the best of our ability you know without

2315
01:57:36,180 --> 01:57:33,340
any insistence on the outcome sort of

2316
01:57:38,460 --> 01:57:36,190
what he says a lot so many of the beings

2317
01:57:40,350 --> 01:57:38,470
have basically in fact I think all of

2318
01:57:42,060 --> 01:57:40,360
them that I've interviewed basically say

2319
01:57:43,470 --> 01:57:42,070
the same thing maybe some different

2320
01:57:45,450 --> 01:57:43,480
language some different words he kind of

2321
01:57:49,140 --> 01:57:45,460
wraps it up in a nice little easy to

2322
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:49,150
quote sentence there but essentially you

2323
01:57:57,450 --> 01:57:52,770
know follow our passions for our joy and

2324
01:57:59,460 --> 01:57:57,460
not having judgment on others and of

2325
01:58:01,050 --> 01:57:59,470
having for having a different type of

2326
01:58:03,030 --> 01:58:01,060
belief system or a different idea of

2327
01:58:07,770 --> 01:58:03,040
what reality is or following a different

2328
01:58:12,510 --> 01:58:07,780
ID T and if we can sort of merge those

2329
01:58:14,790 --> 01:58:12,520
together then we naturally will follow

2330
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:14,800
the path that we've been designed to

2331
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:18,850
follow as a as a piece of the universe a

2332
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:19,210
pizza

2333
01:58:26,460 --> 01:58:23,530
God or a piece of a sentient being

2334
01:58:30,450 --> 01:58:26,470
you know navigating this reality I think

2335
01:58:32,370 --> 01:58:30,460
we all have been born with unique pieces

2336
01:58:37,050 --> 01:58:32,380
of the puzzle to the greater puzzle and

2337
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:37,060
we've sort of told our you know Society

2338
01:58:41,340 --> 01:58:39,370
has told us and we've bought into it

2339
01:58:45,690 --> 01:58:41,350
that we need to all be doctors and

2340
01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:45,700
lawyers and and maybe some other things

2341
01:58:48,990 --> 01:58:47,650
we go but we're flying we're finding out

2342
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:49,000
really quickly that's not working very

2343
01:58:56,700 --> 01:58:51,610
well but the world can only take so many

2344
01:58:58,620 --> 01:58:56,710
doctors and lawyers then then by

2345
01:59:00,330 --> 01:58:58,630
following our passions by following that

2346
01:59:03,090 --> 01:59:00,340
unique piece of the puzzle that we are

2347
01:59:05,370 --> 01:59:03,100
it's going to fit much much better and

2348
01:59:07,500 --> 01:59:05,380
then we can support each other in doing

2349
01:59:08,970 --> 01:59:07,510
that even though it's different and it's

2350
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:08,980
okay to be different and I think that's

2351
01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:12,130
where the whole diversity thing is is

2352
01:59:18,450 --> 01:59:16,210
coming from is that we can really

2353
01:59:20,010 --> 01:59:18,460
embrace that and that's where the true

2354
01:59:21,450 --> 01:59:20,020
evolution that's where we're all going

2355
01:59:24,030 --> 01:59:21,460
to become sort of interconnected

2356
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:24,040
telepathic and then we'll shoot to the

2357
01:59:28,470 --> 01:59:26,290
Stars and beyond let's take our break

2358
01:59:30,870 --> 01:59:28,480
art here Ruben great conversation this

2359
01:59:33,630 --> 01:59:30,880
is fade to black I am your host Jimmy

2360
01:59:37,380 --> 01:59:33,640
church and we'll be right back more with

2361
01:59:38,970 --> 01:59:37,390
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2362
01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:38,980
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2363
01:59:45,740 --> 01:59:42,370
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2364
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2406
02:01:44,970 --> 02:01:42,040
for over 20 years

2407
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:44,980
it's called life changed tea and it's

2408
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:46,810
specially formulated to help detoxify

2409
02:01:52,110 --> 02:01:49,450
and cleanse your kidneys liver colon and

2410
02:01:53,640 --> 02:01:52,120
blood all at once the colon is one of

2411
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:53,650
the most ignored organs in the human

2412
02:01:58,080 --> 02:01:56,290
body the faster that waste is eliminated

2413
02:02:00,090 --> 02:01:58,090
from the body the less time that way

2414
02:02:02,010 --> 02:02:00,100
sits in our intestines spreading toxins

2415
02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:02,020
to our bloodstream this tea helps

2416
02:02:06,180 --> 02:02:03,970
cleanse chemicals caused by outside

2417
02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:06,190
intruders from our entire digestive

2418
02:02:10,229 --> 02:02:08,890
system and get this weight loss can be a

2419
02:02:12,330 --> 02:02:10,239
side effect

2420
02:02:14,339 --> 02:02:12,340
with continued use of the tea you can

2421
02:02:16,890 --> 02:02:14,349
experience clearer healthier younger

2422
02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:16,900
looking skin increased energy and a

2423
02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:18,730
happier outlook on life so if you're

2424
02:02:22,799 --> 02:02:20,050
tired of being tired

2425
02:02:26,669 --> 02:02:22,809
get the life changed tea at get the tea

2426
02:02:28,220 --> 02:02:26,679
calm that's get the tea calm and like me

2427
02:02:30,390 --> 02:02:28,230
you'll be glad you did

2428
02:02:32,129 --> 02:02:30,400
did you know that when you're on the

2429
02:02:34,589 --> 02:02:32,139
road with limited data or Wi-Fi

2430
02:02:36,509 --> 02:02:34,599
available you can still listen to every

2431
02:02:39,270 --> 02:02:36,519
minute of fade to black by just calling

2432
02:02:42,330 --> 02:02:39,280
six oh five five six two four four eight

2433
02:02:44,819 --> 02:02:42,340
two no smartphone app or internet needed

2434
02:02:47,430 --> 02:02:44,829
it saves your data plan and no extra

2435
02:02:50,250 --> 02:02:47,440
cost if you have unlimited minutes just

2436
02:02:52,410 --> 02:02:50,260
call six oh five five six two four four

2437
02:02:55,140 --> 02:02:52,420
eight two you can listen to me Jimmy

2438
02:03:01,980 --> 02:02:55,150
Church on any phone anytime anywhere

2439
02:03:06,020 --> 02:03:03,670
[Music]

2440
02:03:10,740 --> 02:03:06,030
[Applause]

2441
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:10,750
you wanna know a secret I love ponies I

2442
02:03:15,990 --> 02:03:13,410
really love ponies I'm serious I

2443
02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:16,000
couldn't stay sane without Pony mr.

2444
02:03:25,140 --> 02:03:20,050
Brooks why fade to black because you

2445
02:03:29,140 --> 02:03:26,980
this is fade to black

2446
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:29,150
with Jimmy Church on the game changer

2447
02:03:35,210 --> 02:03:32,810
radio network at K GRA the global radio

2448
02:04:02,180 --> 02:03:35,220
alliance

2449
02:04:07,890 --> 02:04:05,940
alright I'm back I had to uh I had to go

2450
02:04:10,050 --> 02:04:07,900
do stuff sorry about that sorry for the

2451
02:04:14,190 --> 02:04:10,060
delay why I've never actually done that

2452
02:04:15,780 --> 02:04:14,200
before but this is fade to black I'm

2453
02:04:18,510 --> 02:04:15,790
Peter yes tonight

2454
02:04:24,990 --> 02:04:18,520
Ruben Lyman Ruben I was off tending to

2455
02:04:26,580 --> 02:04:25,000
technical issues I having to do it

2456
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:26,590
there's apparently there's some

2457
02:04:32,010 --> 02:04:28,930
buffering issues that we never deal with

2458
02:04:34,410 --> 02:04:32,020
but it's nothing on our end right it's

2459
02:04:37,170 --> 02:04:34,420
nothing everything is fine and all of

2460
02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:37,180
the data and everything is cool and no

2461
02:04:41,580 --> 02:04:39,730
drops and full stream and everything is

2462
02:04:42,930 --> 02:04:41,590
cool there's something going on out

2463
02:04:45,300 --> 02:04:42,940
there on the Internet

2464
02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:45,310
and if it happens once in a while right

2465
02:04:49,890 --> 02:04:47,890
and it's yeah I think we're in that

2466
02:04:52,470 --> 02:04:49,900
Mercury retrograde people talk about I

2467
02:04:54,120 --> 02:04:52,480
know the full details of it but I've

2468
02:04:56,550 --> 02:04:54,130
been having you know we had our little

2469
02:04:58,220 --> 02:04:56,560
mite issue and then we're having

2470
02:05:01,470 --> 02:04:58,230
memorized this you or you're having your

2471
02:05:04,830 --> 02:05:01,480
buffering this year and I've heard some

2472
02:05:05,190 --> 02:05:04,840
other mishaps going on with technical

2473
02:05:07,530 --> 02:05:05,200
things

2474
02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:07,540
I guess that's people like to blame the

2475
02:05:15,570 --> 02:05:09,850
Mercury retrograde it's always my men

2476
02:05:18,690 --> 02:05:15,580
I'm tired of Mercury retrograde it's

2477
02:05:23,460 --> 02:05:18,700
always we're never out of it apparently

2478
02:05:27,060 --> 02:05:23,470
if you listen to everybody but I want to

2479
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:27,070
talk continuing the conversation I want

2480
02:05:33,450 --> 02:05:31,330
to talk about the the physics side of

2481
02:05:36,600 --> 02:05:33,460
this I'm talking about the peer science

2482
02:05:38,940 --> 02:05:36,610
level of the numbers of what we are

2483
02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:38,950
dealing with today because the numbers

2484
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:43,090
are crazy and and what I mean by that is

2485
02:05:49,880 --> 02:05:46,330
this just if you go back you know the

2486
02:05:54,870 --> 02:05:49,890
first exoplanet the first exoplanet

2487
02:05:57,270 --> 02:05:54,880
discovered in 1995 right and a couple of

2488
02:06:01,500 --> 02:05:57,280
years later there was five you know at

2489
02:06:04,610 --> 02:06:01,510
the end of 2000 there was 15 you know in

2490
02:06:06,750 --> 02:06:04,620
here we are in 2020 and the numbers that

2491
02:06:08,310 --> 02:06:06,760
astrophysicists and astronomers and

2492
02:06:12,650 --> 02:06:08,320
scientists are throwing around today

2493
02:06:17,480 --> 02:06:12,660
that just in our Milky Way

2494
02:06:20,630 --> 02:06:17,490
not the universe the Milky Way of which

2495
02:06:23,180 --> 02:06:20,640
the Milky Way is the tiniest slice of

2496
02:06:25,010 --> 02:06:23,190
the universe that you can imagine all

2497
02:06:28,610 --> 02:06:25,020
right because we're talking about 500

2498
02:06:30,950 --> 02:06:28,620
billion galaxies or a trillion galaxies

2499
02:06:33,740 --> 02:06:30,960
and each one of those galaxies having a

2500
02:06:37,250 --> 02:06:33,750
trillion stars and each one of those

2501
02:06:40,490 --> 02:06:37,260
having one or two trillion planets and

2502
02:06:43,340 --> 02:06:40,500
and so you get to this number that is so

2503
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:43,350
but if we just look at our Milky Way

2504
02:06:50,720 --> 02:06:47,210
alone today we are now talking about and

2505
02:06:53,660 --> 02:06:50,730
referenced 20 billion 30 billion 40

2506
02:06:58,610 --> 02:06:53,670
billion rocky earth-like planets in the

2507
02:07:01,130 --> 02:06:58,620
Goldilocks zone in just our Milky Way so

2508
02:07:03,350 --> 02:07:01,140
when we are talking about channeling and

2509
02:07:06,050 --> 02:07:03,360
channeling these different species you

2510
02:07:09,020 --> 02:07:06,060
referenced a mantis being there is an

2511
02:07:13,400 --> 02:07:09,030
infinite amount of mantis being species

2512
02:07:15,050 --> 02:07:13,410
out there right because your your what

2513
02:07:17,090 --> 02:07:15,060
you just said that number those numbers

2514
02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:17,100
do remember that's just one dimension

2515
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:20,850
that we can see and there are beyond

2516
02:07:27,110 --> 02:07:24,210
what we can even imagine see user you

2517
02:07:31,910 --> 02:07:27,120
know are the different camera the

2518
02:07:34,790 --> 02:07:31,920
spectrums of light ultraviolet by gamma

2519
02:07:36,830 --> 02:07:34,800
you know all these different color

2520
02:07:39,740 --> 02:07:36,840
spectrums that we can sense with other

2521
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:39,750
good but our visual eyes it's such a my

2522
02:07:44,810 --> 02:07:42,570
new tiny spectrum of what we even know

2523
02:07:46,390 --> 02:07:44,820
exists and then beyond that obviously

2524
02:07:50,120 --> 02:07:46,400
we're still discovering things so

2525
02:07:52,190 --> 02:07:50,130
basically there is life everywhere all

2526
02:07:55,480 --> 02:07:52,200
around us right now you know getting

2527
02:07:59,450 --> 02:07:55,490
beyond going beyond the linear sense so

2528
02:08:01,040 --> 02:07:59,460
it really is just a flavor is the Mantis

2529
02:08:03,050 --> 02:08:01,050
is just a flavor it's like an ice cream

2530
02:08:05,060 --> 02:08:03,060
flavor you know you go to Baskin Robbins

2531
02:08:06,380 --> 02:08:05,070
there's so many flavors and you mix it

2532
02:08:07,790 --> 02:08:06,390
up and you get these different flavors

2533
02:08:11,120 --> 02:08:07,800
and that's what the hybrids that's what

2534
02:08:14,510 --> 02:08:11,130
we are we're a hybrid race and you get

2535
02:08:16,130 --> 02:08:14,520
you know it's really how many how many

2536
02:08:18,290 --> 02:08:16,140
different flavors can you make with the

2537
02:08:20,060 --> 02:08:18,300
existing flavors and that's in remember

2538
02:08:23,660 --> 02:08:20,070
that's been going on over and over and

2539
02:08:25,479 --> 02:08:23,670
over for eons and that's why there's so

2540
02:08:27,910 --> 02:08:25,489
much life here because it really

2541
02:08:29,049 --> 02:08:27,920
it's been it's been going forever and

2542
02:08:30,100 --> 02:08:29,059
there's different states like I was

2543
02:08:33,700 --> 02:08:30,110
saying before different states of

2544
02:08:35,319 --> 02:08:33,710
evolution where some of these flavors

2545
02:08:40,660 --> 02:08:35,329
have figured out how to work together

2546
02:08:43,180 --> 02:08:40,670
really nicely and decided to actually

2547
02:08:46,540 --> 02:08:43,190
between one of the questions here's what

2548
02:08:49,450 --> 02:08:46,550
do they have to what do they get out of

2549
02:08:51,180 --> 02:08:49,460
this right so it's kind of like once

2550
02:08:56,979 --> 02:08:51,190
you've sort of figured out the universe

2551
02:08:59,700 --> 02:08:56,989
you're kind of and I mean I say this in

2552
02:09:01,899 --> 02:08:59,710
terms but it like for us once somebody

2553
02:09:04,589 --> 02:09:01,909
that I know once you're well off you

2554
02:09:06,430 --> 02:09:04,599
kind of want to go and do some some

2555
02:09:07,959 --> 02:09:06,440
philanthropy work right you want to go

2556
02:09:09,069 --> 02:09:07,969
help the rest of the world that's that's

2557
02:09:11,470 --> 02:09:09,079
trying to figure it out and go through

2558
02:09:16,899 --> 02:09:11,480
some issues so I think what they get out

2559
02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:16,909
of it is that that feeling of of help

2560
02:09:20,950 --> 02:09:18,650
you know helping somebody you know

2561
02:09:23,080 --> 02:09:20,960
giving it feels good to give and if you

2562
02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:23,090
have a lot to give then you want to give

2563
02:09:27,310 --> 02:09:25,730
as much as you can and I think that's

2564
02:09:29,169 --> 02:09:27,320
just the natural law of the universe

2565
02:09:33,100 --> 02:09:29,179
obviously here on this planet we haven't

2566
02:09:34,839 --> 02:09:33,110
fully all come to that conclusion but

2567
02:09:37,779 --> 02:09:34,849
many of us are there are many you know

2568
02:09:40,660 --> 02:09:37,789
well-off giving people and I think as we

2569
02:09:42,640 --> 02:09:40,670
evolve more sort of all sort of fall

2570
02:09:45,069 --> 02:09:42,650
into that that camp it's just if you

2571
02:09:52,239 --> 02:09:45,079
have extra you go help those that don't

2572
02:09:55,209 --> 02:09:52,249
have the extra right right and I I was

2573
02:09:57,220 --> 02:09:55,219
listening to talk about Brian Greene a

2574
02:10:00,879 --> 02:09:57,230
lot and I talked about Sean Carroll a

2575
02:10:02,739 --> 02:10:00,889
lot and Brian Cox and all these rock

2576
02:10:04,299 --> 02:10:02,749
star physicists out there and these

2577
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:04,309
quantum guys that talk about the

2578
02:10:08,979 --> 02:10:07,010
universe and multi dimension to multi

2579
02:10:12,250 --> 02:10:08,989
worlds and and all of these things and

2580
02:10:14,910 --> 02:10:12,260
they all discuss yeah ETS and and the

2581
02:10:20,200 --> 02:10:14,920
prospect of alien life out there but

2582
02:10:23,109 --> 02:10:20,210
Brian Green said the other day why would

2583
02:10:25,270 --> 02:10:23,119
now I and by saying what I'm about to

2584
02:10:28,419 --> 02:10:25,280
say I have seen things in the sky I know

2585
02:10:32,350 --> 02:10:28,429
that things are visiting us and and I am

2586
02:10:34,890 --> 02:10:32,360
convinced of that fact but Brian Green

2587
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:34,900
said the other he goes why would an

2588
02:10:38,430 --> 02:10:37,610
intelligent species out there that can

2589
02:10:41,070 --> 02:10:38,440
travel the

2590
02:10:43,350 --> 02:10:41,080
and conquer the speed of light have any

2591
02:10:45,930 --> 02:10:43,360
interest in us why would they give a

2592
02:10:47,970 --> 02:10:45,940
crap about planet Earth why would they

2593
02:10:53,550 --> 02:10:47,980
give us advice why would they do these

2594
02:10:57,540 --> 02:10:53,560
things and and you have to respect that

2595
02:11:05,340 --> 02:10:57,550
comment somewhat you know why why would

2596
02:11:08,459 --> 02:11:05,350
they the Devil May Cry advocate advocate

2597
02:11:11,100 --> 02:11:08,469
would be if you had the ability to

2598
02:11:13,740 --> 02:11:11,110
travel through space and time and to go

2599
02:11:16,410 --> 02:11:13,750
visit past versions of yourself would

2600
02:11:17,970 --> 02:11:16,420
you not go back and visit those versions

2601
02:11:21,330 --> 02:11:17,980
and give them nuggets to make better

2602
02:11:25,170 --> 02:11:21,340
choices in their lives well then does

2603
02:11:30,420 --> 02:11:25,180
that if that is the case then why would

2604
02:11:33,300 --> 02:11:30,430
you want to alter the future if it's in

2605
02:11:36,930 --> 02:11:33,310
the future because we again Jimmy you're

2606
02:11:38,760 --> 02:11:36,940
thinking linearly so it will ever change

2607
02:11:41,250 --> 02:11:38,770
you make to the past it's not going to

2608
02:11:44,550 --> 02:11:41,260
affect the present it's going to affect

2609
02:11:46,770 --> 02:11:44,560
a different version of the present but

2610
02:11:48,959 --> 02:11:46,780
not your present because though they

2611
02:11:51,030 --> 02:11:48,969
aren't as interconnected as you think if

2612
02:11:53,970 --> 02:11:51,040
you if you go back in time and visit

2613
02:11:56,280 --> 02:11:53,980
your ten-year-old version of you yes you

2614
02:11:58,800 --> 02:11:56,290
are creating a new timeline sure of

2615
02:12:03,150 --> 02:11:58,810
yourself so that is on its own

2616
02:12:05,010 --> 02:12:03,160
independent line of evolution where the

2617
02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:05,020
ten-year-old version of you met the

2618
02:12:10,470 --> 02:12:06,730
future version of you and started a new

2619
02:12:13,979 --> 02:12:10,480
path it doesn't but that eliminates

2620
02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:13,989
freewill are you suggesting that well

2621
02:12:17,850 --> 02:12:16,090
hold on this is great I love the

2622
02:12:19,890 --> 02:12:17,860
conversations so let's just stay right

2623
02:12:24,420 --> 02:12:19,900
here it's just you and I on my back

2624
02:12:26,220 --> 02:12:24,430
patio right now Reuben okay and the back

2625
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:26,230
patio is a special place and you know

2626
02:12:30,390 --> 02:12:26,650
that

2627
02:12:35,340 --> 02:12:30,400
so yeah which is this are you suggesting

2628
02:12:39,209 --> 02:12:35,350
that the future versions of us that

2629
02:12:41,790 --> 02:12:39,219
would be here to help us also went

2630
02:12:45,990 --> 02:12:41,800
through the advice of the future

2631
02:12:49,270 --> 02:12:46,000
versions of themselves or wouldn't they

2632
02:12:51,839 --> 02:12:49,280
want us to have the free will of

2633
02:12:54,189 --> 02:12:51,849
interference right the prime directive

2634
02:12:57,129 --> 02:12:54,199
where we need to go that way is

2635
02:12:59,470 --> 02:12:57,139
happening right right well we can't have

2636
02:13:01,330 --> 02:12:59,480
it both ways that's why that that's why

2637
02:13:03,609 --> 02:13:01,340
that's why they're not landing on the

2638
02:13:06,189 --> 02:13:03,619
White House lawn that's why we are

2639
02:13:08,410 --> 02:13:06,199
having this this non-interference and

2640
02:13:11,350 --> 02:13:08,420
that's why we as the individual version

2641
02:13:13,720 --> 02:13:11,360
of us have to you know in some cases

2642
02:13:16,060 --> 02:13:13,730
this is happens a lot people get down on

2643
02:13:16,839 --> 02:13:16,070
their hands and knees and pray for a

2644
02:13:20,260 --> 02:13:16,849
sign

2645
02:13:22,540 --> 02:13:20,270
BAM you know the light up into the sky

2646
02:13:26,890 --> 02:13:22,550
and there's a future version of you

2647
02:13:28,540 --> 02:13:26,900
saying you called but until we ask for

2648
02:13:31,120 --> 02:13:28,550
it we have to invite it and that's our

2649
02:13:32,620 --> 02:13:31,130
free will we have to invite it in now

2650
02:13:35,830 --> 02:13:32,630
some of these beings are very

2651
02:13:39,339 --> 02:13:35,840
manipulative and are able to make us

2652
02:13:42,370 --> 02:13:39,349
invite them in without proper you know

2653
02:13:44,620 --> 02:13:42,380
with going to do process in a sense our

2654
02:13:46,060 --> 02:13:44,630
Mormon is manipulative negative beans

2655
02:13:48,549 --> 02:13:46,070
that you know I'm sure you've covered on

2656
02:13:51,330 --> 02:13:48,559
your show right but I think in a sense

2657
02:13:54,209 --> 02:13:51,340
we are going through this

2658
02:13:57,760 --> 02:13:54,219
non-interference prime directive type

2659
02:13:59,500 --> 02:13:57,770
experience right now and I have to

2660
02:14:01,839 --> 02:13:59,510
initiate contact and we're doing that

2661
02:14:04,270 --> 02:14:01,849
with the c-5 experiences on the physical

2662
02:14:05,950 --> 02:14:04,280
level but individually every time I go

2663
02:14:08,020 --> 02:14:05,960
into meditation every time I go into the

2664
02:14:10,330 --> 02:14:08,030
dream state when I set the intention

2665
02:14:12,850 --> 02:14:10,340
many of us don't know the power of

2666
02:14:14,350 --> 02:14:12,860
intention so we forget to do it and then

2667
02:14:18,040 --> 02:14:14,360
that's when we get the boogeyman in the

2668
02:14:21,250 --> 02:14:18,050
closet but if we set the intention and

2669
02:14:23,620 --> 02:14:21,260
and basically tune our channel like a

2670
02:14:28,390 --> 02:14:23,630
like a channel or to go into a specific

2671
02:14:30,010 --> 02:14:28,400
frequency of you know what is what is

2672
02:14:34,149 --> 02:14:30,020
the best you know sort of I put it in

2673
02:14:35,560 --> 02:14:34,159
these terms what is not with this is

2674
02:14:37,270 --> 02:14:35,570
without the insistence on the outcome

2675
02:14:38,529 --> 02:14:37,280
because if you want to say I need to

2676
02:14:40,450 --> 02:14:38,539
connect with the et it has to be this

2677
02:14:42,549 --> 02:14:40,460
version above a lot so but you simply

2678
02:14:45,069 --> 02:14:42,559
put it do it of all that and you just

2679
02:14:48,160 --> 02:14:45,079
simply go if okay I want to connect with

2680
02:14:50,020 --> 02:14:48,170
the highest version of myself or other

2681
02:14:53,709 --> 02:14:50,030
versions of myself other ETS or whether

2682
02:14:57,250 --> 02:14:53,719
it is that can aid in the best from my

2683
02:14:59,350 --> 02:14:57,260
evolutionary process which the little me

2684
02:15:01,870 --> 02:14:59,360
Ruben may not necessarily know but the

2685
02:15:02,979 --> 02:15:01,880
big me the bigger higher version the

2686
02:15:06,910 --> 02:15:02,989
soul the big soul

2687
02:15:09,700 --> 02:15:06,920
version of me Ruben absolutely knows you

2688
02:15:11,979 --> 02:15:09,710
know what it wants and knows how to

2689
02:15:14,439 --> 02:15:11,989
navigate this this Universal Earth

2690
02:15:17,529 --> 02:15:14,449
experience much better than I do and

2691
02:15:19,660 --> 02:15:17,539
that's when I ask for that guidance and

2692
02:15:22,620 --> 02:15:19,670
I ask for the signs I asked for the

2693
02:15:26,169 --> 02:15:22,630
synchronicities and then it delivers and

2694
02:15:29,109 --> 02:15:26,179
I have to say since I've been on this

2695
02:15:31,259 --> 02:15:29,119
path asking these questions since 2013

2696
02:15:34,209 --> 02:15:31,269
is when I started these interviews

2697
02:15:37,419 --> 02:15:34,219
integrating a lot of the teachings that

2698
02:15:40,750 --> 02:15:37,429
I've learned through these it's real man

2699
02:15:44,649 --> 02:15:40,760
it when you when you ask and when you

2700
02:15:46,060 --> 02:15:44,659
surrender you know asked it's good to

2701
02:15:48,100 --> 02:15:46,070
have desires and you know you hear the

2702
02:15:50,649 --> 02:15:48,110
goose don't have desires you know don't

2703
02:15:53,049 --> 02:15:50,659
do you know don't you mean don't lust

2704
02:15:54,270 --> 02:15:53,059
for anything you know know have desires

2705
02:15:58,270 --> 02:15:54,280
it's fine

2706
02:16:00,790 --> 02:15:58,280
but don't have the expectations or the

2707
02:16:03,520 --> 02:16:00,800
the insistence that it has to happen or

2708
02:16:04,899 --> 02:16:03,530
unfold a certain way desires are

2709
02:16:07,120 --> 02:16:04,909
actually that's what gets that that's

2710
02:16:10,629 --> 02:16:07,130
all in our excitement we need the

2711
02:16:12,689 --> 02:16:10,639
desires that that's our compass to give

2712
02:16:15,310 --> 02:16:12,699
us on the direction when we need to go

2713
02:16:18,459 --> 02:16:15,320
but then relaxing into you know

2714
02:16:20,709 --> 02:16:18,469
surrendering on whatever happens one of

2715
02:16:22,689 --> 02:16:20,719
the universe gives me then what happens

2716
02:16:25,479 --> 02:16:22,699
is your vision opens up and you can see

2717
02:16:25,839 --> 02:16:25,489
the synchronicity you can see different

2718
02:16:27,790 --> 02:16:25,849
things

2719
02:16:30,520 --> 02:16:27,800
oh this rabbit do this thing right now

2720
02:16:34,629 --> 02:16:30,530
for to my car so I slammed on my brakes

2721
02:16:35,860 --> 02:16:34,639
and then you know ten feet ahead a tree

2722
02:16:37,839 --> 02:16:35,870
falls down and on the road where I

2723
02:16:39,730 --> 02:16:37,849
probably would have been if that rabbit

2724
02:16:40,870 --> 02:16:39,740
hadn't landed for me that's an extreme

2725
02:16:43,209 --> 02:16:40,880
case I've had something like that happen

2726
02:16:45,459 --> 02:16:43,219
but that's an extreme case but these

2727
02:16:48,490 --> 02:16:45,469
signs are always showing up in our lives

2728
02:16:52,990 --> 02:16:48,500
and we just have to pay attention what

2729
02:16:54,849 --> 02:16:53,000
is it is it is and what is so

2730
02:17:01,660 --> 02:16:54,859
interesting about that what interest me

2731
02:17:05,169 --> 02:17:01,670
is that the concept of time just the

2732
02:17:08,860 --> 02:17:05,179
general concept everybody out there

2733
02:17:12,790 --> 02:17:08,870
seems to think that they know what time

2734
02:17:15,089 --> 02:17:12,800
is or what time isn't all right they've

2735
02:17:19,150 --> 02:17:15,099
got they've got a total

2736
02:17:22,120 --> 02:17:19,160
and were in the now now or time is

2737
02:17:25,780 --> 02:17:22,130
everything or time is omni or or time

2738
02:17:29,440 --> 02:17:25,790
isn't that time is this or right where

2739
02:17:32,290 --> 02:17:29,450
the the truth is and this is where I

2740
02:17:35,469 --> 02:17:32,300
think that I've got a pretty good grip

2741
02:17:40,599 --> 02:17:35,479
on the concept of time more so than

2742
02:17:43,209 --> 02:17:40,609
anybody else the physicists of the world

2743
02:17:44,919 --> 02:17:43,219
right and the gurus of the world and

2744
02:17:50,310 --> 02:17:44,929
everything else is this is what

2745
02:17:55,360 --> 02:17:50,320
everybody has to understand is that time

2746
02:17:56,139 --> 02:17:55,370
no matter what as it moves in any

2747
02:18:00,669 --> 02:17:56,149
direction

2748
02:18:05,549 --> 02:18:00,679
it linear sense or not is always

2749
02:18:09,339 --> 02:18:05,559
different as it moves in any direction

2750
02:18:15,070 --> 02:18:09,349
backwards forwards sideways up and down

2751
02:18:17,110 --> 02:18:15,080
as it as you move through space-time you

2752
02:18:20,580 --> 02:18:17,120
are moving through ripples of gravity

2753
02:18:26,530 --> 02:18:20,590
you're moving through large masses of

2754
02:18:30,339 --> 02:18:26,540
stars and star systems right and and and

2755
02:18:33,009 --> 02:18:30,349
at that point time is altered as you

2756
02:18:36,099 --> 02:18:33,019
move out to be as you move out beyond

2757
02:18:40,629 --> 02:18:36,109
that through the masses and pass the

2758
02:18:43,770 --> 02:18:40,639
masses of galaxies time is altered right

2759
02:18:47,500 --> 02:18:43,780
so you have a macro and the micro

2760
02:18:51,190 --> 02:18:47,510
versions of the altering of space-time

2761
02:18:54,549 --> 02:18:51,200
and time there are no consistencies of

2762
02:18:55,419 --> 02:18:54,559
it and anybody that wants okay that's it

2763
02:18:57,370 --> 02:18:55,429
that's it

2764
02:19:00,629 --> 02:18:57,380
anybody that wants to tell me hey be

2765
02:19:02,889 --> 02:19:00,639
dude you don't get it no wait a minute

2766
02:19:05,950 --> 02:19:02,899
you don't understand you don't

2767
02:19:08,530 --> 02:19:05,960
understand private you know it's the

2768
02:19:10,719 --> 02:19:08,540
great sages of the world and even the

2769
02:19:12,669 --> 02:19:10,729
scientists I'll say that you know the

2770
02:19:16,089 --> 02:19:12,679
only constant is change really and and

2771
02:19:17,860 --> 02:19:16,099
that's why we I mean that's why were in

2772
02:19:20,049 --> 02:19:17,870
the times our end is because we're going

2773
02:19:24,759 --> 02:19:20,059
through this massive change on the

2774
02:19:28,200 --> 02:19:24,769
planet and it's it's it's exciting and

2775
02:19:31,980 --> 02:19:28,210
terrifying at the same time it truly is

2776
02:19:34,560 --> 02:19:31,990
it truly is and early on at the

2777
02:19:36,690 --> 02:19:34,570
beginning of the show when I asked you

2778
02:19:38,969 --> 02:19:36,700
about the UFO hypothesis and how your

2779
02:19:41,969 --> 02:19:38,979
views have changed on what et could be

2780
02:19:43,799 --> 02:19:41,979
in what we are seeing in the in the

2781
02:19:46,320 --> 02:19:43,809
skies today and it certainly gone

2782
02:19:48,719 --> 02:19:46,330
through an evolutionary change but we're

2783
02:19:52,080 --> 02:19:48,729
still seeing the consistencies - as well

2784
02:19:54,960 --> 02:19:52,090
we were we are seeing actual craft craft

2785
02:20:00,300 --> 02:19:54,970
right structures with items in it so

2786
02:20:03,240 --> 02:20:00,310
we're seeing both and is that okay

2787
02:20:06,540 --> 02:20:03,250
well the question is this when you're at

2788
02:20:08,370 --> 02:20:06,550
a ce-5 event or anybody is out there

2789
02:20:11,790 --> 02:20:08,380
looking at the night sky and you may see

2790
02:20:15,960 --> 02:20:11,800
two three four or a dozen things in a

2791
02:20:19,080 --> 02:20:15,970
single evening chances are those dozen

2792
02:20:25,530 --> 02:20:19,090
things that you have seen don't even

2793
02:20:29,969 --> 02:20:25,540
know each other they're not from the

2794
02:20:32,610 --> 02:20:29,979
same parts of the universe are they yes

2795
02:20:35,700 --> 02:20:32,620
I think that's true it's funny the c-5

2796
02:20:38,850 --> 02:20:35,710
have evolved for for me and the groups

2797
02:20:40,620 --> 02:20:38,860
that I go into most of us now are no

2798
02:20:42,750 --> 02:20:40,630
longer even concerned with the lights of

2799
02:20:46,640 --> 02:20:42,760
the sky it's not it's just like oh look

2800
02:20:50,640 --> 02:20:46,650
at that most of us are actually having

2801
02:20:53,670 --> 02:20:50,650
deep profound experiences going on the

2802
02:20:56,700 --> 02:20:53,680
ships in a sort of an astral or

2803
02:20:58,800 --> 02:20:56,710
meditative state and you know dreamlike

2804
02:21:00,900 --> 02:20:58,810
things so it's not like their bodies are

2805
02:21:05,250 --> 02:21:00,910
lifted up and they're on the ships but

2806
02:21:07,560 --> 02:21:05,260
the sharing afterward they're much more

2807
02:21:09,330 --> 02:21:07,570
in depth than just sort of having a

2808
02:21:13,080 --> 02:21:09,340
meditation and visualizing some things

2809
02:21:15,410 --> 02:21:13,090
people are going full-on getting you

2810
02:21:19,080 --> 02:21:15,420
know full-on lessons and detailed

2811
02:21:21,810 --> 02:21:19,090
information from from their trips on the

2812
02:21:23,130 --> 02:21:21,820
ships and then we get a little physical

2813
02:21:25,260 --> 02:21:23,140
light in the sky as a little

2814
02:21:27,660 --> 02:21:25,270
confirmation and then others see it and

2815
02:21:29,250 --> 02:21:27,670
we can sort of describe what we saw or

2816
02:21:31,230 --> 02:21:29,260
whatever and you know yeah that was that

2817
02:21:33,240 --> 02:21:31,240
and then you have that one or two people

2818
02:21:34,800 --> 02:21:33,250
that were like oh I was on the ship and

2819
02:21:37,530 --> 02:21:34,810
I went in this room and the other person

2820
02:21:39,870 --> 02:21:37,540
said why I saw the same room and I and

2821
02:21:41,591 --> 02:21:39,880
they start describing the details of the

2822
02:21:46,470 --> 02:21:41,601
room and they're matching up

2823
02:21:50,890 --> 02:21:46,480
so the c5 experiences we've evolved the

2824
02:21:55,541 --> 02:21:50,900
just that alone I think is giving us

2825
02:21:57,970 --> 02:21:55,551
closer to to this actual physical

2826
02:21:59,230 --> 02:21:57,980
contact again some people are having a

2827
02:22:00,940 --> 02:21:59,240
physical contact I don't think

2828
02:22:03,341 --> 02:22:00,950
collectively we can all have the

2829
02:22:05,530 --> 02:22:03,351
physical contact until collectively we

2830
02:22:09,370 --> 02:22:05,540
you know the majority of us actually

2831
02:22:12,671 --> 02:22:09,380
believe it I subscribe to you know the

2832
02:22:14,890 --> 02:22:12,681
Bashara many others talk about believing

2833
02:22:18,870 --> 02:22:14,900
and seeing not seen as believing you you

2834
02:22:22,120 --> 02:22:18,880
have to have a framework for the

2835
02:22:24,041 --> 02:22:22,130
whatever to exist first in your

2836
02:22:27,700 --> 02:22:24,051
consciousness and your in your beingness

2837
02:22:30,850 --> 02:22:27,710
for it to actually show up it has to be

2838
02:22:34,720 --> 02:22:30,860
that way and I'll tell you why it has to

2839
02:22:38,110 --> 02:22:34,730
be the reason why things phase out in

2840
02:22:41,140 --> 02:22:38,120
and in into our consciousness or into

2841
02:22:44,291 --> 02:22:41,150
our visual sense or even into our

2842
02:22:47,350 --> 02:22:44,301
dimension in our world is because it's a

2843
02:22:51,341 --> 02:22:47,360
chance meeting of the frequencies with

2844
02:22:56,171 --> 02:22:51,351
the only way dad yeah because and I'll

2845
02:22:59,171 --> 02:22:56,181
tell you why the the reason why we we

2846
02:23:02,770 --> 02:22:59,181
aren't able necessarily to pick up on

2847
02:23:06,970 --> 02:23:02,780
other frequencies other television

2848
02:23:10,291 --> 02:23:06,980
broadcasts from the stars and radio

2849
02:23:13,841 --> 02:23:10,301
signals is because we would have to

2850
02:23:18,881 --> 02:23:13,851
connect with the civilization that is on

2851
02:23:23,110 --> 02:23:18,891
our same time scale where everything is

2852
02:23:24,850 --> 02:23:23,120
at the same speed you have to grasp that

2853
02:23:27,730 --> 02:23:24,860
concept for a second

2854
02:23:30,041 --> 02:23:27,740
there's a reason why if you are these

2855
02:23:33,970 --> 02:23:30,051
fast radio bursts or these radio signals

2856
02:23:38,591 --> 02:23:33,980
that may be out there are just beyond

2857
02:23:41,560 --> 02:23:38,601
our ability to to see it could just be

2858
02:23:45,370 --> 02:23:41,570
noise to us right it could just be

2859
02:23:48,700 --> 02:23:45,380
background interference and it's just

2860
02:23:51,671 --> 02:23:48,710
not using this example I use this

2861
02:23:54,830 --> 02:23:51,681
example so you know back who's the

2862
02:23:56,900 --> 02:23:54,840
integratron guy the

2863
02:23:58,520 --> 02:23:56,910
the old guy from the from the 60s who

2864
02:24:03,160 --> 02:23:58,530
had all the UFO events out there what

2865
02:24:06,349 --> 02:24:03,170
was his name relation George Van Tassel

2866
02:24:08,630 --> 02:24:06,359
yes George Van Tassel so you have George

2867
02:24:11,750 --> 02:24:08,640
Van Tassel many others from that era in

2868
02:24:14,480 --> 02:24:11,760
the 60s described their contact

2869
02:24:17,060 --> 02:24:14,490
experiences from Venetians right and

2870
02:24:18,860 --> 02:24:17,070
from the planet from Venus these beings

2871
02:24:21,380 --> 02:24:18,870
would come down in the craft and they

2872
02:24:23,270 --> 02:24:21,390
had you know the slick jumpsuits and the

2873
02:24:26,630 --> 02:24:23,280
blue highs and the green you know

2874
02:24:28,130 --> 02:24:26,640
whatever this or the parading beans and

2875
02:24:31,880 --> 02:24:28,140
you have different people describing for

2876
02:24:35,120 --> 02:24:31,890
aliens but the over the period of time

2877
02:24:37,120 --> 02:24:35,130
the the types of beans that that but it

2878
02:24:39,800 --> 02:24:37,130
seems like humanity's interacting with

2879
02:24:41,660 --> 02:24:39,810
change and differ and I think that goes

2880
02:24:43,280 --> 02:24:41,670
back to what you're saying with yes

2881
02:24:45,260 --> 02:24:43,290
we're having different beans from

2882
02:24:49,280 --> 02:24:45,270
different time periods interacting with

2883
02:24:52,340 --> 02:24:49,290
humanity to help us resolve you know

2884
02:24:55,550 --> 02:24:52,350
these evolutionary pickups or jobs that

2885
02:24:56,120 --> 02:24:55,560
were going through individually and

2886
02:24:58,940 --> 02:24:56,130
collectively

2887
02:25:01,099 --> 02:24:58,950
so yes the the beans we interact up with

2888
02:25:04,310 --> 02:25:01,109
argan involves right now you don't see

2889
02:25:08,389 --> 02:25:04,320
that many future humans maybe maybe you

2890
02:25:10,010 --> 02:25:08,399
can ask sergeant Penniston tomorrow you

2891
02:25:11,420 --> 02:25:10,020
know because I know he doesn't believe

2892
02:25:15,020 --> 02:25:11,430
they were 80 he thinks there are future

2893
02:25:18,080 --> 02:25:15,030
humans but we believe we do have future

2894
02:25:20,150 --> 02:25:18,090
humans near future humans interacting

2895
02:25:21,770 --> 02:25:20,160
with us but on a very limited scale but

2896
02:25:23,030 --> 02:25:21,780
you have to ask well why wouldn't they

2897
02:25:25,280 --> 02:25:23,040
if they had the ability to travel in

2898
02:25:26,780 --> 02:25:25,290
time when why would they interact more

2899
02:25:28,190 --> 02:25:26,790
with us why are we having more et

2900
02:25:31,150 --> 02:25:28,200
contact and I think that's just because

2901
02:25:33,650 --> 02:25:31,160
of where we're at with our evolution in

2902
02:25:35,240 --> 02:25:33,660
the future maybe we will be interacting

2903
02:25:37,880 --> 02:25:35,250
more with future versions of ourselves

2904
02:25:40,040 --> 02:25:37,890
or other meeting races different in key

2905
02:25:42,050 --> 02:25:40,050
races from other parts of the universe

2906
02:25:45,020 --> 02:25:42,060
that we don't even know yet but they're

2907
02:25:47,540 --> 02:25:45,030
here to help us because that's more of a

2908
02:25:50,480 --> 02:25:47,550
resonance of where we are at with our

2909
02:25:56,000 --> 02:25:50,490
specific evolution and I would think

2910
02:25:59,030 --> 02:25:56,010
that if and I'm going to talk to Jim

2911
02:26:01,130 --> 02:25:59,040
about this tomorrow for sure but when we

2912
02:26:04,010 --> 02:26:01,140
there are there are so many versions of

2913
02:26:07,751 --> 02:26:04,020
time travel but most people think of the

2914
02:26:10,241 --> 02:26:07,761
concept like HG Wells right time machine

2915
02:26:14,201 --> 02:26:10,251
mechanical device you are physically

2916
02:26:16,720 --> 02:26:14,211
moving your body to another point in

2917
02:26:19,361 --> 02:26:16,730
time for an experience and you are there

2918
02:26:22,031 --> 02:26:19,371
in the physical there's a there's a

2919
02:26:26,171 --> 02:26:22,041
danger with that there's two dangers one

2920
02:26:30,341 --> 02:26:26,181
the earth is orbiting the Sun and so you

2921
02:26:33,520 --> 02:26:30,351
would have to know exactly where the

2922
02:26:36,791 --> 02:26:33,530
earth is going to be at that moment in

2923
02:26:39,461 --> 02:26:36,801
time and and where you are going to be

2924
02:26:41,921 --> 02:26:39,471
on the earth in order to arrive there if

2925
02:26:44,890 --> 02:26:41,931
you are making a physical move that's a

2926
02:26:47,470 --> 02:26:44,900
very difficult concept to and and a

2927
02:26:49,841 --> 02:26:47,480
technical leap that I don't think that

2928
02:26:52,211 --> 02:26:49,851
we have a grasp of but then there's the

2929
02:26:55,321 --> 02:26:52,221
other there's another consideration yeah

2930
02:26:59,261 --> 02:26:55,331
and the other consideration is the

2931
02:27:02,201 --> 02:26:59,271
universe is balanced it knows how many

2932
02:27:05,921 --> 02:27:02,211
particles are there at any given time if

2933
02:27:10,691 --> 02:27:05,931
you go and remove yourself from the now

2934
02:27:14,201 --> 02:27:10,701
now physically and move to another point

2935
02:27:17,470 --> 02:27:14,211
in time those particles those atoms are

2936
02:27:20,081 --> 02:27:17,480
now missing in the universe now and are

2937
02:27:22,600 --> 02:27:20,091
placed in another point in time in the

2938
02:27:26,890 --> 02:27:22,610
universe where the universe is not

2939
02:27:30,520 --> 02:27:26,900
expecting sudden new particles atoms to

2940
02:27:32,231 --> 02:27:30,530
appear it's going to upset the actual

2941
02:27:37,081 --> 02:27:32,241
balance of the universe and I'm talking

2942
02:27:42,731 --> 02:27:37,091
about Universal destruction like a

2943
02:27:47,501 --> 02:27:42,741
universal black hole implosion I just I

2944
02:27:49,720 --> 02:27:47,511
don't think that changing atoms from one

2945
02:27:52,180 --> 02:27:49,730
point of the universe and time and

2946
02:27:54,371 --> 02:27:52,190
moving them to another point is a zone

2947
02:27:56,801 --> 02:27:54,381
that you want to scientifically go into

2948
02:27:58,961 --> 02:27:56,811
you don't know what the the catastrophic

2949
02:28:02,231 --> 02:27:58,971
results of that would be you would have

2950
02:28:06,751 --> 02:28:02,241
to do it in another way another time

2951
02:28:10,091 --> 02:28:06,761
line or not actually your physical self

2952
02:28:12,371 --> 02:28:10,101
well my take is that every time we do

2953
02:28:15,251 --> 02:28:12,381
make those so for example we can look at

2954
02:28:17,890 --> 02:28:15,261
an ET craft sort of phasing in and then

2955
02:28:19,180 --> 02:28:17,900
taking out of our of our existence you

2956
02:28:21,550 --> 02:28:19,190
know I've seen them letting them

2957
02:28:27,219 --> 02:28:21,560
literally show up and then disappear

2958
02:28:28,630 --> 02:28:27,229
- and my take is in the future and we

2959
02:28:31,389 --> 02:28:28,640
can we're starting to do this now it's a

2960
02:28:34,840 --> 02:28:31,399
3d scanning but can you imagine a 3d

2961
02:28:37,300 --> 02:28:34,850
scanner that can scan everything in the

2962
02:28:39,369 --> 02:28:37,310
room but not just the physical the way

2963
02:28:41,439 --> 02:28:39,379
the lights hitting it but down to the

2964
02:28:43,210 --> 02:28:41,449
molecular structure what every atom is

2965
02:28:45,849 --> 02:28:43,220
in its placement and everything else and

2966
02:28:48,130 --> 02:28:45,859
you know the frequency and vibration of

2967
02:28:50,829 --> 02:28:48,140
sort of thing like in my room right now

2968
02:28:52,599 --> 02:28:50,839
with my my voice coming out and these

2969
02:28:54,369 --> 02:28:52,609
things happening at this time and I

2970
02:28:56,319 --> 02:28:54,379
don't think there's any other space time

2971
02:28:59,819 --> 02:28:56,329
now moment that has everything and

2972
02:29:04,449 --> 02:28:59,829
configured it's sort of its own

2973
02:29:05,769 --> 02:29:04,459
Universal thumbprint is right now

2974
02:29:08,649 --> 02:29:05,779
and then right now and right now we all

2975
02:29:11,139 --> 02:29:08,659
have these unique timestamp from prints

2976
02:29:14,649 --> 02:29:11,149
based on all of the elements in the now

2977
02:29:17,949 --> 02:29:14,659
moment and I this is my belief from my

2978
02:29:21,519 --> 02:29:17,959
research is that the VT craft have the

2979
02:29:27,069 --> 02:29:21,529
ability like a super AI computer that

2980
02:29:29,859 --> 02:29:27,079
could actually project these we would

2981
02:29:33,369 --> 02:29:29,869
sake ordinances but it's actually a like

2982
02:29:37,590 --> 02:29:33,379
a 3d printer or a projection of all of

2983
02:29:40,960 --> 02:29:37,600
this data that has all of the signature

2984
02:29:43,210 --> 02:29:40,970
moments of the frequency and it projects

2985
02:29:45,460 --> 02:29:43,220
it and then like Bob Lazar talks about

2986
02:29:48,539 --> 02:29:45,470
it literally just falls in my gravity

2987
02:29:52,510 --> 02:29:48,549
ways falls forward into this projected

2988
02:29:54,219 --> 02:29:52,520
hologram that it created and that is how

2989
02:29:57,309 --> 02:29:54,229
these craft sort of show up in our

2990
02:29:59,529 --> 02:29:57,319
reality without breaking the space-time

2991
02:30:02,380 --> 02:29:59,539
to do and so to say because they're in

2992
02:30:04,779 --> 02:30:02,390
their own gravity wave bubble so there's

2993
02:30:07,809 --> 02:30:04,789
still independent of our reality but

2994
02:30:10,239 --> 02:30:07,819
they're visually again sort of project

2995
02:30:12,429 --> 02:30:10,249
this version of their reality that they

2996
02:30:15,340 --> 02:30:12,439
need to get back to right that they came

2997
02:30:16,630 --> 02:30:15,350
from let's take a break let's take a

2998
02:30:17,319 --> 02:30:16,640
break right here we're going into

2999
02:30:20,079 --> 02:30:17,329
overtime

3000
02:30:21,930 --> 02:30:20,089
and be because I know you're in lockdown

3001
02:30:26,520 --> 02:30:21,940
and you've got

3002
02:30:28,080 --> 02:30:26,530
the day of tomorrow so just stay right

3003
02:30:30,000 --> 02:30:28,090
there Ruben this is fade to black

3004
02:30:31,980 --> 02:30:30,010
I am euros Jimmy Church I guess tonight

3005
02:30:34,310 --> 02:30:31,990
Ruben Langdon what a great conversation

3006
02:30:37,920 --> 02:30:34,320
we're talking about his new series

3007
02:30:40,230 --> 02:30:37,930
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3008
02:30:41,610 --> 02:30:40,240
we'll pick up where we leaving off right

3009
02:30:45,180 --> 02:30:41,620
now when we come back after this short

3010
02:30:50,110 --> 02:30:45,190
break and a game changer network and kgr

3011
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3012
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3077
02:34:46,100 --> 02:34:32,680
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3078
02:34:50,550 --> 02:34:48,470
welcome back fade to black on the ocean

3079
02:34:53,010 --> 02:34:50,560
to church

3080
02:35:00,960 --> 02:34:53,020
our conversation tonight is with rata

3081
02:35:07,739 --> 02:35:00,970
Reuben like it was channeled Rob Reuben

3082
02:35:11,340 --> 02:35:07,749
is what wouldn't it have been funny if I

3083
02:35:15,599 --> 02:35:11,350
just just popped out with Rob G so this

3084
02:35:20,189 --> 02:35:15,609
is the thing I think are you a friend's

3085
02:35:23,479 --> 02:35:20,199
a perv am i I can't say I'm a huge fan I

3086
02:35:33,599 --> 02:35:23,489
I appreciate the music but I'm I'm very

3087
02:35:35,909 --> 02:35:33,609
very electronica and my I know I know he

3088
02:35:40,170 --> 02:35:35,919
was amazing the cut made some amazing

3089
02:35:41,939 --> 02:35:40,180
contributions to the music you know what

3090
02:35:45,000 --> 02:35:41,949
I would do you know what I would do if I

3091
02:35:47,909 --> 02:35:45,010
was you right take out a pen I want you

3092
02:35:53,880 --> 02:35:47,919
to write down to three things I want you

3093
02:35:59,039 --> 02:35:53,890
to write down Joe's Garage acts 1 & 2 X

3094
02:36:05,880 --> 02:35:59,049
1 & 2 that's the first album then I want

3095
02:36:10,529 --> 02:36:05,890
you to write down one size fits all okay

3096
02:36:16,170 --> 02:36:10,539
okay now those two albums I want you to

3097
02:36:19,250 --> 02:36:16,180
owe in one more chic chic as an Arab

3098
02:36:24,659 --> 02:36:19,260
Sheik okay your booty

3099
02:36:26,519 --> 02:36:24,669
why oh you are bo UT I think is what it

3100
02:36:29,399 --> 02:36:26,529
is chic your booty it's one word

3101
02:36:32,869 --> 02:36:29,409
okay those three albums I want you to

3102
02:36:36,599 --> 02:36:32,879
listen to those albums as you edit

3103
02:36:38,429 --> 02:36:36,609
tomorrow okay you're in the middle of an

3104
02:36:40,289 --> 02:36:38,439
edit session right you're in the middle

3105
02:36:43,019 --> 02:36:40,299
of an edit session yep so I want you to

3106
02:36:46,829 --> 02:36:43,029
listen to those three albums and then

3107
02:36:49,199 --> 02:36:46,839
get back to me okay now I'm talking

3108
02:36:55,199 --> 02:36:49,209
about a paradigm shift in your existence

3109
02:36:57,389 --> 02:36:55,209
is going to occur I know you are I know

3110
02:37:00,119 --> 02:36:57,399
you are I know you are now all right now

3111
02:37:02,189 --> 02:37:00,129
let's get back to the conversation you

3112
02:37:03,660 --> 02:37:02,199
brought up Jim Penniston which I was

3113
02:37:05,310 --> 02:37:03,670
gonna do about a half-hour

3114
02:37:06,600 --> 02:37:05,320
go and then you bought him up at the end

3115
02:37:08,790 --> 02:37:06,610
of the show and I thought that that was

3116
02:37:11,280 --> 02:37:08,800
pretty interesting that the universe

3117
02:37:14,940 --> 02:37:11,290
reached out to us like that Jim

3118
02:37:16,770 --> 02:37:14,950
Penniston with all of the conversation

3119
02:37:21,570 --> 02:37:16,780
about Rendlesham and Bentwaters in

3120
02:37:24,570 --> 02:37:21,580
Woodbridge about the et aspect of this

3121
02:37:27,740 --> 02:37:24,580
and I'm still on that side of the fence

3122
02:37:31,890 --> 02:37:27,750
by the way but Jim

3123
02:37:35,190 --> 02:37:31,900
against all odds and all of the pressure

3124
02:37:36,929 --> 02:37:35,200
and interference from everybody they're

3125
02:37:39,179 --> 02:37:36,939
not only the other witnesses that were

3126
02:37:41,730 --> 02:37:39,189
there but the other researchers that

3127
02:37:45,120 --> 02:37:41,740
have been looking into this case from

3128
02:37:47,310 --> 02:37:45,130
the beginning Jim has gone against the

3129
02:37:50,250 --> 02:37:47,320
grain and said hey we need to pump the

3130
02:37:55,290 --> 02:37:50,260
brakes here I touched the craft I got a

3131
02:37:57,590 --> 02:37:55,300
download it's not ET that they told me

3132
02:37:59,820 --> 02:37:57,600
that they were us from the future and

3133
02:38:02,490 --> 02:37:59,830
that would that one against the grain

3134
02:38:05,040 --> 02:38:02,500
didn't it and but he has he has stuck to

3135
02:38:06,900 --> 02:38:05,050
it over the years and this is going to

3136
02:38:11,340 --> 02:38:06,910
be the central part of our conversation

3137
02:38:15,300 --> 02:38:11,350
tomorrow night but yeah how interesting

3138
02:38:18,420 --> 02:38:15,310
is that for Jim to to you know stick to

3139
02:38:21,480 --> 02:38:18,430
what he believes the experience was for

3140
02:38:23,700 --> 02:38:21,490
him right well he should know more than

3141
02:38:27,240 --> 02:38:23,710
anybody I mean he's the one who who got

3142
02:38:31,620 --> 02:38:27,250
the downloads right he touched the craft

3143
02:38:34,050 --> 02:38:31,630
I know Bose was also you know affected

3144
02:38:38,090 --> 02:38:34,060
many people were affected by it but he

3145
02:38:41,520 --> 02:38:38,100
he seemed to be had gotten the closest I

3146
02:38:42,690 --> 02:38:41,530
believe him and before when I first you

3147
02:38:45,000 --> 02:38:42,700
know when I was producing the Citizen

3148
02:38:46,380 --> 02:38:45,010
hearing I thought for sure - it's just

3149
02:38:50,670 --> 02:38:46,390
EPS he doesn't know he's talking about

3150
02:38:54,570 --> 02:38:50,680
but but the more I've expanded my my my

3151
02:38:57,060 --> 02:38:54,580
visual idea of what all this is it

3152
02:38:59,310 --> 02:38:57,070
absolutely makes actually more sense

3153
02:39:01,650 --> 02:38:59,320
that it would be us from the future and

3154
02:39:05,520 --> 02:39:01,660
no sense in that way yeah and you've

3155
02:39:07,110 --> 02:39:05,530
analyzed of course not only going back

3156
02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:07,120
to the citizens hearing but you've

3157
02:39:12,600 --> 02:39:09,520
looked into this and other UFO cases

3158
02:39:14,400 --> 02:39:12,610
over the years and the one thing that I

3159
02:39:16,109 --> 02:39:14,410
find interesting I want to know if

3160
02:39:18,869 --> 02:39:16,119
you've gotten the same it comes

3161
02:39:22,079 --> 02:39:18,879
same conclusion is that when you speak

3162
02:39:26,189 --> 02:39:22,089
to anybody there and that was there and

3163
02:39:28,050 --> 02:39:26,199
listen to their testimony everybody's

3164
02:39:29,939 --> 02:39:28,060
got a different experience when it comes

3165
02:39:34,139 --> 02:39:29,949
to Rendlesham and I find that very

3166
02:39:36,029 --> 02:39:34,149
interesting don't you yeah yeah I mean

3167
02:39:39,329 --> 02:39:36,039
there's certain key things that add up

3168
02:39:41,789 --> 02:39:39,339
but yeah there's you know this going

3169
02:39:44,729 --> 02:39:41,799
back to this idea you were talking

3170
02:39:46,590 --> 02:39:44,739
before the break about how everything is

3171
02:39:49,109 --> 02:39:46,600
in constant change in constant flux and

3172
02:39:51,449 --> 02:39:49,119
somebody in the chat said relativity

3173
02:39:53,249 --> 02:39:51,459
right that Einstein's relativity we're

3174
02:39:55,279 --> 02:39:53,259
all seeing the world through a unique

3175
02:39:58,289 --> 02:39:55,289
lens and then when you start adding

3176
02:40:00,149 --> 02:39:58,299
extra dimensional you know whether it's

3177
02:40:02,340 --> 02:40:00,159
a being or us from the future or

3178
02:40:06,090 --> 02:40:02,350
different effects that lend you is going

3179
02:40:08,819 --> 02:40:06,100
to get very distorted because it is so

3180
02:40:11,279 --> 02:40:08,829
different the space-time jump or the

3181
02:40:15,719 --> 02:40:11,289
frequency are unique frequency I mean we

3182
02:40:17,309 --> 02:40:15,729
have a hard time you know telling how an

3183
02:40:18,689 --> 02:40:17,319
axe and a traffic accident happens even

3184
02:40:21,059 --> 02:40:18,699
when there's like five different cameras

3185
02:40:23,969 --> 02:40:21,069
on it where we try to tell that retell

3186
02:40:26,010 --> 02:40:23,979
that story let alone introduce some kind

3187
02:40:27,749 --> 02:40:26,020
of extra dimensional beam or effect or

3188
02:40:29,699 --> 02:40:27,759
whatever that's that's not part of our

3189
02:40:33,359 --> 02:40:29,709
normal paradigm we're all going to have

3190
02:40:36,389 --> 02:40:33,369
a very different take on what it is and

3191
02:40:38,099 --> 02:40:36,399
the feelings we have and that's that's

3192
02:40:39,539 --> 02:40:38,109
just the way it is it's to be expected

3193
02:40:42,959 --> 02:40:39,549
and like I said until we all

3194
02:40:46,409 --> 02:40:42,969
collectively can start to first agree

3195
02:40:51,269 --> 02:40:46,419
that ETS exist which we're getting there

3196
02:40:55,169 --> 02:40:51,279
slowly until then can we actually start

3197
02:40:57,929 --> 02:40:55,179
having the experience more regularly in

3198
02:41:00,029 --> 02:40:57,939
a in a linear sense where we have the

3199
02:41:01,739 --> 02:41:00,039
same being show up over and over you

3200
02:41:05,039 --> 02:41:01,749
know and can have these communications

3201
02:41:07,679 --> 02:41:05,049
with them until then it's a Wild West

3202
02:41:09,300 --> 02:41:07,689
and it's not a bad thing that's just

3203
02:41:14,340 --> 02:41:09,310
that's the way it is the construct of

3204
02:41:19,109 --> 02:41:14,350
reality I many years ago I went through

3205
02:41:20,819 --> 02:41:19,119
a couple of months of speaking to I'm

3206
02:41:23,510 --> 02:41:20,829
not going to name names but I'll say

3207
02:41:28,051 --> 02:41:23,520
this in a general sense speaking to

3208
02:41:31,150 --> 02:41:28,061
everybody that was involved in rent

3209
02:41:33,671 --> 02:41:31,160
including the original journalist and

3210
02:41:36,730 --> 02:41:33,681
everybody that was involved from just

3211
02:41:43,990 --> 02:41:36,740
about day one and and everybody there

3212
02:41:45,640 --> 02:41:44,000
right and trying to attempt to just to

3213
02:41:47,171 --> 02:41:45,650
get everybody together and let's just

3214
02:41:49,330 --> 02:41:47,181
let's just talk this out

3215
02:41:53,080 --> 02:41:49,340
let's just talk it out yeah it wasn't

3216
02:41:55,270 --> 02:41:53,090
going to happen I did not believe and I

3217
02:41:56,470 --> 02:41:55,280
was just and I said to every single one

3218
02:41:58,900 --> 02:41:56,480
of them come on man

3219
02:42:00,610 --> 02:41:58,910
you guys were all there over those three

3220
02:42:03,881 --> 02:42:00,620
days you guys went through this

3221
02:42:05,171 --> 02:42:03,891
experience together it's okay to have

3222
02:42:07,180 --> 02:42:05,181
different memories or different

3223
02:42:09,881 --> 02:42:07,190
experiences but don't you think it's

3224
02:42:16,060 --> 02:42:09,891
best for the community to to just come

3225
02:42:18,490 --> 02:42:16,070
nah man well that's that's kind of like

3226
02:42:20,950 --> 02:42:18,500
that's why we have such wide you know

3227
02:42:26,171 --> 02:42:20,960
opinions in the UFO

3228
02:42:28,511 --> 02:42:26,181
kalenna and not to discredit destroyers

3229
02:42:30,220 --> 02:42:28,521
tell anybody that they're wrong I truly

3230
02:42:31,301 --> 02:42:30,230
think that we all are experiencing

3231
02:42:34,921 --> 02:42:31,311
things the way we're experiencing

3232
02:42:37,480 --> 02:42:34,931
because it is such a vast big world of

3233
02:42:40,091 --> 02:42:37,490
beyond this world you know the unseen

3234
02:42:43,810 --> 02:42:40,101
veil it's infinite in its possibilities

3235
02:42:45,730 --> 02:42:43,820
and going back to the storytelling idea

3236
02:42:47,801 --> 02:42:45,740
this is one of the reasons why I've

3237
02:42:52,030 --> 02:42:47,811
chosen to focus on these channelers a

3238
02:42:56,500 --> 02:42:52,040
mystery that's coming through in that in

3239
02:42:58,780 --> 02:42:56,510
this manner is because you know I I said

3240
02:43:01,870 --> 02:42:58,790
this I put this out the only way but I

3241
02:43:06,551 --> 02:43:01,880
honestly can't think of a better story

3242
02:43:08,171 --> 02:43:06,561
for Humanity like if I care is one in a

3243
02:43:10,421 --> 02:43:08,181
positive sense right if there is one

3244
02:43:13,421 --> 02:43:10,431
where where we all win where you know

3245
02:43:16,540 --> 02:43:13,431
discrimination and judgment of others

3246
02:43:17,770 --> 02:43:16,550
goes away and it is you know a lot of

3247
02:43:19,060 --> 02:43:17,780
people like well that's very utopian

3248
02:43:23,200 --> 02:43:19,070
that's you like never gonna happen

3249
02:43:25,720 --> 02:43:23,210
that's where I put my focus and I and I

3250
02:43:29,110 --> 02:43:25,730
see it as a possibility as it not being

3251
02:43:31,570 --> 02:43:29,120
a possibility you know at least I'm

3252
02:43:33,370 --> 02:43:31,580
leaving the door open so that can happen

3253
02:43:36,190 --> 02:43:33,380
as opposed to shutting the door to that

3254
02:43:38,591 --> 02:43:36,200
reality so I like to tell the story

3255
02:43:40,960 --> 02:43:38,601
through my lens in picking these

3256
02:43:42,400 --> 02:43:40,970
channelers that are so hard and you know

3257
02:43:45,969 --> 02:43:42,410
Adam Apollo and also these others that

3258
02:43:48,099 --> 02:43:45,979
are telling the same story right so we

3259
02:43:50,650 --> 02:43:48,109
can get closer to that because the more

3260
02:43:52,210 --> 02:43:50,660
I think we focus on that it's my

3261
02:43:54,729 --> 02:43:52,220
understanding how come the construction

3262
02:43:56,800 --> 02:43:54,739
reality works is it all exist it's all

3263
02:43:59,050 --> 02:43:56,810
there the the all these different

3264
02:44:02,410 --> 02:43:59,060
versions of the Rendlesham forest they

3265
02:44:04,210 --> 02:44:02,420
are true realities to focus on I know

3266
02:44:06,910 --> 02:44:04,220
it's a big thing to wrap our head around

3267
02:44:09,219 --> 02:44:06,920
but when we understand that we're

3268
02:44:11,200 --> 02:44:09,229
changing a billion times a second every

3269
02:44:13,000 --> 02:44:11,210
second individually and then

3270
02:44:15,210 --> 02:44:13,010
collectively think of you know multiply

3271
02:44:18,010 --> 02:44:15,220
that billion by another seven billion

3272
02:44:20,050 --> 02:44:18,020
every second there's all these doorways

3273
02:44:22,120 --> 02:44:20,060
to other dimensional realities and

3274
02:44:23,860 --> 02:44:22,130
experiences the butterfly effect where

3275
02:44:25,780 --> 02:44:23,870
you move one thing there the whole thing

3276
02:44:28,320 --> 02:44:25,790
changes like that I think that's how it

3277
02:44:32,229 --> 02:44:28,330
works and I think the more we can

3278
02:44:33,849 --> 02:44:32,239
collectively focus on a specific path of

3279
02:44:36,099 --> 02:44:33,859
positivity and I'll be lifting each

3280
02:44:39,219 --> 02:44:36,109
other as opposed to doom and gloom and

3281
02:44:41,229 --> 02:44:39,229
that's the direction we'll go even

3282
02:44:52,269 --> 02:44:41,239
though even though what you're asking

3283
02:44:59,110 --> 02:44:52,279
for is a complete impossibility but

3284
02:45:01,660 --> 02:44:59,120
physics says anything is possible no

3285
02:45:04,210 --> 02:45:01,670
impossible I share I share your vision

3286
02:45:09,160 --> 02:45:04,220
in that I truly do and I speak about it

3287
02:45:13,150 --> 02:45:09,170
so often and I realize that the goal may

3288
02:45:14,950 --> 02:45:13,160
be always just out of reach but you have

3289
02:45:16,110 --> 02:45:14,960
to do that yet you have to go into that

3290
02:45:20,229 --> 02:45:16,120
direction

3291
02:45:22,929 --> 02:45:20,239
and in that are you suggesting that you

3292
02:45:27,280 --> 02:45:22,939
have found your bliss is this your

3293
02:45:29,590 --> 02:45:27,290
happiness you know you have not been any

3294
02:45:35,440 --> 02:45:29,600
more apt I'm the happiest now in my life

3295
02:45:40,690 --> 02:45:35,450
that I've ever been and it's in it's

3296
02:45:43,269 --> 02:45:40,700
it's a really awesome place to be to be

3297
02:45:45,880 --> 02:45:43,279
doing the things I love to be in

3298
02:45:47,920 --> 02:45:45,890
gratitude every day and appreciate you

3299
02:45:51,070 --> 02:45:47,930
know my health I know there's many who

3300
02:45:54,200 --> 02:45:51,080
aren't as fortunate but I have to say

3301
02:45:58,190 --> 02:45:54,210
I've been in some unfortunate situations

3302
02:46:00,440 --> 02:45:58,200
and I've been able to work out of them

3303
02:46:02,810 --> 02:46:00,450
following these these these these

3304
02:46:05,090 --> 02:46:02,820
guidelines these the formula which

3305
02:46:07,219 --> 02:46:05,100
Bashar likes to say you know that I'm

3306
02:46:08,420 --> 02:46:07,229
following the formula following my

3307
02:46:14,320 --> 02:46:08,430
excitement

3308
02:46:17,240 --> 02:46:14,330
no no insistence on the outcome you know

3309
02:46:18,890 --> 02:46:17,250
just doing what what I enjoy and what I

3310
02:46:23,900 --> 02:46:18,900
love and doing it with integrity of

3311
02:46:26,180 --> 02:46:23,910
course and the it's just it's got it's

3312
02:46:28,940 --> 02:46:26,190
been my guiding light to leave me to I

3313
02:46:31,520 --> 02:46:28,950
am now which is again this I can say is

3314
02:46:36,310 --> 02:46:31,530
the happiest moment I'm in constant

3315
02:46:43,400 --> 02:46:40,550
yes you have my friend is you have and

3316
02:46:47,240 --> 02:46:43,410
for anybody out there that goes to a

3317
02:46:48,830 --> 02:46:47,250
conference and you single out Rubin

3318
02:46:51,620 --> 02:46:48,840
you're gonna see him he's got a camera

3319
02:46:55,400 --> 02:46:51,630
crew he's he's documenting he's

3320
02:46:58,070 --> 02:46:55,410
interviewing and your interest in in in

3321
02:47:00,230 --> 02:46:58,080
this and trying to find answers is is

3322
02:47:02,930 --> 02:47:00,240
first and foremost in your life and when

3323
02:47:06,290 --> 02:47:02,940
you find that bliss that that's the most

3324
02:47:08,570 --> 02:47:06,300
important part and people need to see

3325
02:47:11,020 --> 02:47:08,580
that side of you because it is genuine

3326
02:47:13,540 --> 02:47:11,030
you are out there really getting it done

3327
02:47:17,330 --> 02:47:13,550
but I want to get back to your point is

3328
02:47:19,670 --> 02:47:17,340
is this community is ufology the

3329
02:47:23,480 --> 02:47:19,680
community is it like the barbershop

3330
02:47:28,030 --> 02:47:23,490
right where we this is the place where

3331
02:47:31,130 --> 02:47:28,040
we are supposed to be able to share our

3332
02:47:33,050 --> 02:47:31,140
experiences no matter how out there they

3333
02:47:36,170 --> 02:47:33,060
may be for somebody else to listen to

3334
02:47:42,550 --> 02:47:36,180
this is the place where we can come and

3335
02:47:45,530 --> 02:47:42,560
and share and and without fear I think I

3336
02:47:48,920 --> 02:47:45,540
it's not quite that it should I think it

3337
02:47:51,860 --> 02:47:48,930
could be and it should be because you

3338
02:47:53,480 --> 02:47:51,870
know somebody's gonna resonate there's

3339
02:47:55,400 --> 02:47:53,490
there's there's something for everybody

3340
02:47:56,840 --> 02:47:55,410
out there and just because what I'm

3341
02:47:58,100 --> 02:47:56,850
saying may not resonate with the other

3342
02:47:59,330 --> 02:47:58,110
people and what other people may not

3343
02:48:01,700 --> 02:47:59,340
know what other people are saying may

3344
02:48:04,460 --> 02:48:01,710
not resonate with everyone that's that's

3345
02:48:06,680 --> 02:48:04,470
okay wouldn't up what a brain world we'd

3346
02:48:08,090 --> 02:48:06,690
have if we all you know spoke the same

3347
02:48:10,880 --> 02:48:08,100
language did the same

3348
02:48:12,769 --> 02:48:10,890
same foods still the same story about

3349
02:48:15,349 --> 02:48:12,779
your apology like that would be boring

3350
02:48:18,649 --> 02:48:15,359
it's exciting because it is the

3351
02:48:21,439 --> 02:48:18,659
barbershop in a sense and if we can

3352
02:48:25,670 --> 02:48:21,449
allow it the more we can allow it to be

3353
02:48:26,960 --> 02:48:25,680
the barbershop and and not jump on

3354
02:48:30,290 --> 02:48:26,970
everybody's case when they have a

3355
02:48:33,309 --> 02:48:30,300
different idea I think the more exciting

3356
02:48:37,280 --> 02:48:33,319
it will be the more fun we'll have

3357
02:48:39,859 --> 02:48:37,290
I agree with that

3358
02:48:41,240 --> 02:48:39,869
you know I totally agree and then we

3359
02:48:45,109 --> 02:48:41,250
have the other side of the fence

3360
02:48:51,729 --> 02:48:45,119
which is like the series interviews with

3361
02:48:55,880 --> 02:48:51,739
Ed because hold on hear me out because

3362
02:48:57,620 --> 02:48:55,890
for those out there that may have heard

3363
02:48:59,359 --> 02:48:57,630
of channeling most people have never

3364
02:49:02,570 --> 02:48:59,369
heard of Jane Roberts is certainly

3365
02:49:04,670 --> 02:49:02,580
outside of ufology nobody's heard of you

3366
02:49:06,920 --> 02:49:04,680
know outside of the awakening community

3367
02:49:09,290 --> 02:49:06,930
nobody's heard of Jane Roberts nobody

3368
02:49:13,070 --> 02:49:09,300
knows what a channel or is you know

3369
02:49:14,510 --> 02:49:13,080
we're talking about circus acts you know

3370
02:49:17,269 --> 02:49:14,520
that's the way that they would look at

3371
02:49:20,090 --> 02:49:17,279
something like this but for those that

3372
02:49:22,490 --> 02:49:20,100
would see or that haven't seen

3373
02:49:27,040 --> 02:49:22,500
interviews with that but they go and

3374
02:49:30,800 --> 02:49:27,050
watch it now you're going to have to

3375
02:49:34,700 --> 02:49:30,810
present your case as to why they need to

3376
02:49:37,460 --> 02:49:34,710
consider this as part of our reality how

3377
02:49:41,120 --> 02:49:37,470
do you do that right we're not in the

3378
02:49:43,309 --> 02:49:41,130
barber shop now we you know that we we

3379
02:49:45,979 --> 02:49:43,319
are going way out there interviews for

3380
02:49:52,479 --> 02:49:45,989
that isn't for everybody this isn't a

3381
02:49:56,540 --> 02:49:54,950
it's becoming it was actually I don't

3382
02:49:58,130 --> 02:49:56,550
know about season two right now but

3383
02:50:02,120 --> 02:49:58,140
Season one last year when it came out

3384
02:50:06,229 --> 02:50:02,130
was the number one launched data show at

3385
02:50:09,170 --> 02:50:06,239
the time so there's a lot of people that

3386
02:50:12,740 --> 02:50:09,180
are resonating with this story but how

3387
02:50:16,429 --> 02:50:12,750
do you how do you speak to somebody with

3388
02:50:20,990 --> 02:50:16,439
a very limited reality right that that

3389
02:50:21,551 --> 02:50:21,000
you are going to present this series to

3390
02:50:24,671 --> 02:50:21,561
them

3391
02:50:27,910 --> 02:50:24,681
and this is why they need to pay

3392
02:50:31,150 --> 02:50:27,920
attention to it and again to accept it

3393
02:50:35,650 --> 02:50:31,160
as part of their reality on this planet

3394
02:50:37,360 --> 02:50:35,660
how do you do that well I'd say first

3395
02:50:39,100 --> 02:50:37,370
don't listen to drink Jimmy Church and

3396
02:50:42,610 --> 02:50:39,110
gross and all but wonderful guests he

3397
02:50:44,350 --> 02:50:42,620
has and and then if and then if you're

3398
02:50:48,640 --> 02:50:44,360
still curious after listening to my

3399
02:50:51,490 --> 02:50:48,650
spiel and everything then then go then

3400
02:50:53,740 --> 02:50:51,500
go there but it is you're right it's not

3401
02:50:57,610 --> 02:50:53,750
for everyone it is sort of a quantum

3402
02:50:59,440 --> 02:50:57,620
leap in in your typical belief structure

3403
02:51:02,381 --> 02:50:59,450
so I don't really want to put it on

3404
02:51:05,261 --> 02:51:02,391
anybody who's not ready for it because

3405
02:51:06,730 --> 02:51:05,271
if you're easy you know what resist

3406
02:51:09,131 --> 02:51:06,740
persists coming you don't want to you

3407
02:51:10,421 --> 02:51:09,141
want to put it on anybody who's not

3408
02:51:13,570 --> 02:51:10,431
ready to listen to it because then

3409
02:51:15,511 --> 02:51:13,580
they're only find fault with it or try

3410
02:51:17,921 --> 02:51:15,521
to pick it apart and and I'm not I

3411
02:51:20,320 --> 02:51:17,931
honestly say there is there's very

3412
02:51:21,850 --> 02:51:20,330
limited science out there and in Sderot

3413
02:51:24,251 --> 02:51:21,860
documentary and I think you talked about

3414
02:51:25,890 --> 02:51:24,261
on your show he did an EEG meter and I

3415
02:51:28,780 --> 02:51:25,900
show that my series as well where he's

3416
02:51:30,310 --> 02:51:28,790
doing the brainwaves yep he's the only

3417
02:51:31,570 --> 02:51:30,320
guys then that I plan to do that with

3418
02:51:34,330 --> 02:51:31,580
some of the other channels in the future

3419
02:51:37,270 --> 02:51:34,340
but really that's the only real science

3420
02:51:39,280 --> 02:51:37,280
we have on this other than that it's you

3421
02:51:43,060 --> 02:51:39,290
know with my ancient traditions from

3422
02:51:44,440 --> 02:51:43,070
shamanism to other you know journal is

3423
02:51:46,961 --> 02:51:44,450
not a new thing we've had generals

3424
02:51:49,360 --> 02:51:46,971
throughout the history of time and

3425
02:51:51,011 --> 02:51:49,370
automatic writing you know conversations

3426
02:51:53,430 --> 02:51:51,021
with God you know gamma wash like this

3427
02:51:55,511 --> 02:51:53,440
is probably a big part of our our

3428
02:51:58,030 --> 02:51:55,521
collective consciousness and we are

3429
02:52:00,040 --> 02:51:58,040
paying attention you know you have many

3430
02:52:01,751 --> 02:52:00,050
very famous channels out there and

3431
02:52:06,160 --> 02:52:01,761
people were the YouTube videos you can

3432
02:52:07,870 --> 02:52:06,170
just look at it look at them but to take

3433
02:52:10,390 --> 02:52:07,880
it seriously it's really about what's

3434
02:52:12,970 --> 02:52:10,400
being said dude does it resonate does it

3435
02:52:14,650 --> 02:52:12,980
serve you there's a surger belief system

3436
02:52:17,860 --> 02:52:14,660
this is another tool that I've learned

3437
02:52:20,890 --> 02:52:17,870
from from the Bashan materials if it if

3438
02:52:24,131 --> 02:52:20,900
it's not serving you then get rid of it

3439
02:52:26,530 --> 02:52:24,141
so if the message is and if the idea of

3440
02:52:29,261 --> 02:52:26,540
channeling is not your thing you know

3441
02:52:31,001 --> 02:52:29,271
that it doesn't your your you're

3442
02:52:32,080 --> 02:52:31,011
fighting the wrong fight and I don't

3443
02:52:35,330 --> 02:52:32,090
need to be fighting that fight either

3444
02:52:39,679 --> 02:52:35,340
it's like go go get some other material

3445
02:52:41,929 --> 02:52:39,689
seek you know watch the other shows that

3446
02:52:44,630 --> 02:52:41,939
the other guess that you have on you

3447
02:52:47,540 --> 02:52:44,640
know listen to Jim's story for me I fell

3448
02:52:49,700 --> 02:52:47,550
into this I got I've worked my way up to

3449
02:52:51,670 --> 02:52:49,710
it because I had sought out all the

3450
02:52:54,920 --> 02:52:51,680
other information from all the

3451
02:52:56,149 --> 02:52:54,930
researchers and I got to a point where I

3452
02:52:59,059 --> 02:52:56,159
couldn't go any further

3453
02:53:01,160 --> 02:52:59,069
because there was the puzzle pieces I

3454
02:53:02,300 --> 02:53:01,170
had all the puzzle pieces I could but

3455
02:53:04,040 --> 02:53:02,310
there's still a lot of holes and I

3456
02:53:06,410 --> 02:53:04,050
didn't have the complete picture and

3457
02:53:08,000 --> 02:53:06,420
when at one of those eet media meetup

3458
02:53:11,059 --> 02:53:08,010
groups doing one the ones that you came

3459
02:53:12,649 --> 02:53:11,069
to Wendy Kennedy a channeler she lives

3460
02:53:14,269 --> 02:53:12,659
in Santa Monica she was there and

3461
02:53:16,130 --> 02:53:14,279
afterwards we were chatting and she's

3462
02:53:18,620 --> 02:53:16,140
you know talking about the abduction

3463
02:53:22,040 --> 02:53:18,630
scenario and and what's going on there

3464
02:53:25,219 --> 02:53:22,050
and she said it's a soul contract and

3465
02:53:27,069 --> 02:53:25,229
that was like a magic light bulb because

3466
02:53:31,880 --> 02:53:27,079
I had talked to probably by that time

3467
02:53:34,760 --> 02:53:31,890
100 or so abductees and hearing all

3468
02:53:36,319 --> 02:53:34,770
their experiences and trauma and some of

3469
02:53:37,580 --> 02:53:36,329
them good someone bad and different

3470
02:53:40,219 --> 02:53:37,590
things but when I heard from Wendy

3471
02:53:43,069 --> 02:53:40,229
Kennedy it's a soul contract I was like

3472
02:53:45,080 --> 02:53:43,079
that's the missing piece that's that's

3473
02:53:46,760 --> 02:53:45,090
what I need to follow and I followed

3474
02:53:47,840 --> 02:53:46,770
that stream and then when I started

3475
02:53:49,670 --> 02:53:47,850
talking these channels they started

3476
02:53:53,780 --> 02:53:49,680
filling in all the other missing pieces

3477
02:53:55,819 --> 02:53:53,790
of the puzzle to this bigger puzzle that

3478
02:53:58,340 --> 02:53:55,829
I had started working on through all my

3479
02:54:00,380 --> 02:53:58,350
other research in neurology and to date

3480
02:54:03,099 --> 02:54:00,390
I'd still feels like this is the most

3481
02:54:05,510 --> 02:54:03,109
complete puzzle that I can complete

3482
02:54:08,689 --> 02:54:05,520
amount of puzzle pieces that I can

3483
02:54:12,439 --> 02:54:08,699
assemble with what we have available to

3484
02:54:14,990 --> 02:54:12,449
us through you know through through

3485
02:54:17,899 --> 02:54:15,000
through our you know modern technology

3486
02:54:20,899 --> 02:54:17,909
and meeting people and discussions and

3487
02:54:22,819 --> 02:54:20,909
all this stuff I'm not saying it's the

3488
02:54:26,059 --> 02:54:22,829
only puzzle will be the most complete

3489
02:54:28,460 --> 02:54:26,069
that that there is it's just in my

3490
02:54:30,349 --> 02:54:28,470
reality and in my research this is what

3491
02:54:32,719 --> 02:54:30,359
I've come to and this is what I'm

3492
02:54:35,740 --> 02:54:32,729
sharing with the world but I'm sure

3493
02:54:37,819 --> 02:54:35,750
there's many other avenues and different

3494
02:54:40,910 --> 02:54:37,829
public pieces that I still don't have

3495
02:54:44,120 --> 02:54:40,920
that other people may have when I met

3496
02:54:45,469 --> 02:54:44,130
Adam Apollo you had on the show he

3497
02:54:46,969 --> 02:54:45,479
seemed to have a lot of the puzzle

3498
02:54:49,161 --> 02:54:46,979
pieces that I've been looking looking

3499
02:54:52,220 --> 02:54:49,171
towards as far as

3500
02:54:54,411 --> 02:54:52,230
unified matrix theory mm-hmm and and

3501
02:54:57,831 --> 02:54:54,421
that really resonated with with me and

3502
02:54:59,361 --> 02:54:57,841
matched with a lot of the research had

3503
02:55:03,350 --> 02:54:59,371
been doing in the questions I've been

3504
02:55:09,071 --> 02:55:03,360
asking Metis when you know I get robbed

3505
02:55:13,341 --> 02:55:09,081
I get chained I get Darrell I totally

3506
02:55:15,261 --> 02:55:13,351
can digest what is happening but you

3507
02:55:17,480 --> 02:55:15,271
know like the barbershop right no matter

3508
02:55:20,301 --> 02:55:17,490
what that conversation is going down in

3509
02:55:23,451 --> 02:55:20,311
the UFL barbershop somebody walks in the

3510
02:55:26,031 --> 02:55:23,461
door brings up channeling that's one of

3511
02:55:29,810 --> 02:55:26,041
the things that almost goes taboo even

3512
02:55:34,611 --> 02:55:29,820
in the UFO community and then even for

3513
02:55:38,480 --> 02:55:34,621
me but then I you go and you see Bashar

3514
02:55:41,751 --> 02:55:38,490
and you hear Bashar in person and you go

3515
02:55:43,520 --> 02:55:41,761
through that and you listen there's

3516
02:55:46,011 --> 02:55:43,530
something going on there

3517
02:55:49,100 --> 02:55:46,021
I mean something real something tangible

3518
02:55:50,751 --> 02:55:49,110
and and we have to back up and say okay

3519
02:55:53,270 --> 02:55:50,761
you know what this is just something

3520
02:55:55,821 --> 02:55:53,280
else that we need to collectively just

3521
02:55:58,911 --> 02:55:55,831
put in the pot here it's that miso soup

3522
02:56:01,430 --> 02:55:58,921
that you were referring to earlier you

3523
02:56:05,871 --> 02:56:01,440
know being very serious about that I'm

3524
02:56:08,631 --> 02:56:05,881
yeah I agree I think I think it is you

3525
02:56:10,190 --> 02:56:08,641
know Lee heresy he's sort of an

3526
02:56:14,451 --> 02:56:10,200
intuitive channel he's been on the show

3527
02:56:16,701 --> 02:56:14,461
he my show as far as channeling you know

3528
02:56:19,341 --> 02:56:16,711
the disease but he does a lot of

3529
02:56:21,491 --> 02:56:19,351
self-help work and he's kind of like a

3530
02:56:24,051 --> 02:56:21,501
Tony Robbins kind of guy doing doing

3531
02:56:24,381 --> 02:56:24,061
public seminars but also independent you

3532
02:56:26,690 --> 02:56:24,391
know

3533
02:56:29,411 --> 02:56:26,700
lifting people up right and even in that

3534
02:56:33,321 --> 02:56:29,421
world channeling a sort of a taboo thing

3535
02:56:35,690 --> 02:56:33,331
but he says he keeps the channeling it's

3536
02:56:37,341 --> 02:56:35,700
like it's part of his toolkit it's like

3537
02:56:39,980 --> 02:56:37,351
on his tool belt he has to have that

3538
02:56:42,440 --> 02:56:39,990
there to ignore that would be a

3539
02:56:45,201 --> 02:56:42,450
disservice to to the other work that

3540
02:56:47,031 --> 02:56:45,211
he's doing and I feel in a sense with

3541
02:56:48,261 --> 02:56:47,041
your apology and for me because that's

3542
02:56:52,341 --> 02:56:48,271
kind of where I started

3543
02:56:54,411 --> 02:56:52,351
is the the channeling thing is like a

3544
02:56:56,180 --> 02:56:54,421
toolkit it's like a part of my toolkit

3545
02:56:58,011 --> 02:56:56,190
that I can use to help me guide me

3546
02:57:00,171 --> 02:56:58,021
through this this other you know the

3547
02:57:01,850 --> 02:57:00,181
barbershop I can actually do a better

3548
02:57:02,940 --> 02:57:01,860
job talking at the barbershop now

3549
02:57:04,980 --> 02:57:02,950
because I have this

3550
02:57:08,850 --> 02:57:04,990
chocolate obviously I can't always bring

3551
02:57:10,800 --> 02:57:08,860
that tool into the shop and use it but

3552
02:57:14,219 --> 02:57:10,810
having it in the background it's a it's

3553
02:57:16,830 --> 02:57:14,229
a nice safe thing that helps me navigate

3554
02:57:17,420 --> 02:57:16,840
this wacky world were in yeah you're

3555
02:57:20,429 --> 02:57:17,430
right

3556
02:57:25,140 --> 02:57:20,439
years ago and when I say years ago I'm

3557
02:57:28,800 --> 02:57:25,150
going like 10 15 years ago I listened to

3558
02:57:32,160 --> 02:57:28,810
Bashar some bootleg tape that made it

3559
02:57:35,010 --> 02:57:32,170
onto the internet right it was called

3560
02:57:36,630 --> 02:57:35,020
Bashar on time-travel I have gone back

3561
02:57:38,820 --> 02:57:36,640
and tried to find it since then it's

3562
02:57:43,679 --> 02:57:38,830
gone it's it's not out there there was

3563
02:57:46,800 --> 02:57:43,689
like 15 20 minutes long but that 20

3564
02:57:51,990 --> 02:57:46,810
minutes of Bashar on time-travel was a

3565
02:57:55,110 --> 02:57:52,000
game changer it blew my mind and nothing

3566
02:57:58,020 --> 02:57:55,120
in it had anything to do with any

3567
02:58:00,300 --> 02:57:58,030
concept of time travel but science or

3568
02:58:04,560 --> 02:58:00,310
science fiction based that we've ever

3569
02:58:07,290 --> 02:58:04,570
heard today and it really moved me and

3570
02:58:09,840 --> 02:58:07,300
so you have to go back and say where is

3571
02:58:12,120 --> 02:58:09,850
that information coming from you know

3572
02:58:13,740 --> 02:58:12,130
this idea these concepts because they're

3573
02:58:16,350 --> 02:58:13,750
not based on anything that has been

3574
02:58:19,110 --> 02:58:16,360
discussed in the past on this planet

3575
02:58:23,040 --> 02:58:19,120
from any intellectual you know and

3576
02:58:25,469 --> 02:58:23,050
there's where we have oh I just sneeze I

3577
02:58:30,080 --> 02:58:25,479
don't have a corner by receipt I don't

3578
02:58:32,850 --> 02:58:30,090
have coronavirus are you ready bad yeah

3579
02:58:37,219 --> 02:58:32,860
just sneeze came out of nowhere see that

3580
02:58:40,800 --> 02:58:37,229
was Bashar that was Bashar reaching out

3581
02:58:42,420 --> 02:58:40,810
hey Ruben Ruben you are the best my man

3582
02:58:43,950 --> 02:58:42,430
I know you you're working on a lot of

3583
02:58:45,540 --> 02:58:43,960
projects and you're getting some stuff

3584
02:58:49,710 --> 02:58:45,550
ready I don't want to talk about that

3585
02:58:51,120 --> 02:58:49,720
now but when you get this finished you

3586
02:58:52,860 --> 02:58:51,130
got to come back on the show and let's

3587
02:58:55,679 --> 02:58:52,870
do the launch right here will you do

3588
02:58:56,340 --> 02:58:55,689
that for me that would be awesome yes

3589
02:58:58,230 --> 02:58:56,350
let's do

3590
02:59:00,510 --> 02:58:58,240
Ruben you're the best man get back to

3591
02:59:03,450 --> 02:59:00,520
work you've got three albums to listen

3592
02:59:05,850 --> 02:59:03,460
to tomorrow all Frank Zappa I'll talk to

3593
02:59:09,030 --> 02:59:05,860
you the day after okay man I'll talk to

3594
02:59:12,060 --> 02:59:09,040
you Ruben

3595
02:59:14,190 --> 02:59:12,070
all of Rubens links are over at Jimmy

3596
02:59:16,591 --> 02:59:14,200
Church radio.com we've got them posted

3597
02:59:18,390 --> 02:59:16,601
right there and I know the project that

3598
02:59:21,270 --> 02:59:18,400
he is working on right now and I'm very

3599
02:59:23,640 --> 02:59:21,280
excited about what he's about to drop on

3600
02:59:25,711 --> 02:59:23,650
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3617
03:00:07,350 --> 03:00:03,240
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Jim Penniston until then I want

3619
03:00:10,251 --> 03:00:08,990
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